{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/65d35ef6884f850016e9644d/6914d5dd7728b8766c5a7dec?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"He Sold His Startup to Twitter. Now He’s Building AI That Codes | Tomas Halgas","description":"<p>In this episode of The Everyday Founder, James sits down with Tomas Helgaš, founder and CEO of Sutro — the AI platform that turns a single text prompt into a full production-ready app.</p><p><br></p><p>Before Sutro, Tomas worked at Facebook (helping power the “People You May Know” feature), then went on to build and sell Sphere to Twitter after raising $30M.</p><p><br></p><p>Now, he’s back for round two — building Sutro to change the way the world builds software. This conversation dives into the mindset, mission, and mechanics behind one of the most fascinating builders in AI today.</p><p><br></p><p>We discuss:</p><p><br></p><p>- Why Tomas left his dream job at Facebook to start Sphere</p><p>- How he built a company that became the foundation for X (Twitter) Communities</p><p>- The early days of Sutro and building secure, production-grade AI tools</p><p>- The tradeoff between shipping fast vs. building safely</p><p>- Co-founders, hiring mistakes, and second-time founder lessons</p><p>- How AI will reshape how software is built — and why security is the next big frontier</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Chapters:</p><p><br></p><p>00:00 – Mission: change how the world builds software</p><p>01:18 – Intro: Tomas Halgaš, Sutro, Facebook → Sphere → Twitter</p><p>02:08 – Why go back after a successful exit</p><p>03:10 – Early bet on OpenAI (GPT-2) and text-to-app ideas</p><p>04:02 – Viral demos: prompt → live front- &amp; back-end, fully deployed</p><p>05:12 – Sphere origin story &amp; community product</p><p>07:42 – From partnership talks to Twitter acquisition</p><p>09:24 – Post-acquisition &amp; starting Sutro (overlap period)</p><p>11:05 – Co-founder transition; going solo as CEO</p><p>12:21 – Sutro thesis: production software with guarantees</p><p>14:02 – Security horror stories &amp; why prototypes don’t cut it</p><p>15:42 – Comp landscape: “shipping fast” vs “building safely”</p><p>16:57 – The mission (again): security-first software at scale</p><p>18:13 – Sponsor: Opus</p><p>18:38 – From prompt links to better human–computer interaction</p><p>19:13 – Product/LLM inflection points; scaffolds &amp; reasoning</p><p>21:13 – Moving upmarket: serious, enterprise use cases</p><p>21:39 – Raising capital: when VC makes sense</p><p>23:16 – What a “good VC” actually does for founders</p><p>28:15 – Second-time founder perspective on investor value</p><p>28:42 – Family roots, teenage hacking, first sparks</p><p>30:16 – Silicon Valley internship &amp; mindset shift</p><p>31:01 – Leaving Facebook: parental push &amp; perspective</p><p>33:02 – Hiring mistakes at Sphere: brilliant but hard to work with</p><p>34:12 – New bar at Sutro: great humans, ex-founders</p><p>35:04 – Remote vs in-person; hiring uncommon talent</p><p>37:41 – Advice to younger self: read deeply, then build deeply</p><p>41:01 – Working with people: persuasion vs. coaching</p><p>42:03 – Coaching someone with a “dream job” to leap</p><p>43:18 – Calibrate at the best; then go build</p><p>45:21 – CTO vs CEO: different learning curves</p><p>46:04 – Big tech cycles &amp; urgency vs comfort</p><p>47:03 – Co-founders: marriage, commitment, alignment</p><p>49:13 – The “F-you number” &amp; exit alignment</p><p>51:21 – Host anecdote; aligning on outcomes</p><p>52:19 – Post-acq reality: agency &amp; decision-making changes</p><p>54:21 – Corporate planning constraints &amp; politics</p><p>55:24 – How to set better terms for future acquisitions</p><p>56:10 – Where Sutro is going</p><p>57:16 – Better models, but HCI is the hard problem</p><p>59:16 – English is ambiguous: need precise interfaces</p><p>1:00:19 – The compliance/security wave is coming</p><p>1:01:27 – Sutro’s advantage: guarantees, compliance, real software</p><p>1:01:54 – The next interface: text + visuals + flows</p><p>1:02:17 – AI moves fast; strategy expires quickly</p><p>1:02:39 – Luck vs talent vs hard work</p><p>1:03:39 – Where to follow Tomas &amp; try Sutro</p><p>1:04:03 – Outro</p>","author_name":"James Farnfield"}