{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/65c380272e2cc000150e6335/69dfdb16501ebe6715b1551d?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Industrial Buyers in European Forest Investment - with Jyri Hietala and Tapani Pahkasalo","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/65c380272e2cc000150e6335/1776270028822-738acab3-9cff-4c05-8d94-d21d7b68cd64.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p><a href=\"https://theforestlink.com/newsletter-sign-up/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The ForestLink newsletter sign-up</a></p><p><a href=\"https://capman.com/natural-capital/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">CapMan Natural Capital</a></p><p><br></p><p>Today, I’m joined by <strong>Jyri Hietala</strong> and <strong>Tapani Pahkasalo</strong>, Managing Partner and Co-Managing Partner of <a href=\"https://capman.com/natural-capital/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">CapMan Natural Capital</a>. In this conversation, we discuss CapMan’s approach to active forest investment management across Europe and unpack the recent sale of a Baltic forest portfolio to Inter IKEA. Jyri and Tapani explain how they build institutional-scale portfolios, create value through forest management, renewable energy, and other ecosystem services, and position assets for different buyer profiles at exit. We also talk about what this transaction may signal for the future of European forest investment. From industrial demand for long-term wood supply to the growing importance of biodiversity, carbon, and natural capital value creation, this episode explores why high-quality forestry assets are attracting attention from both financial and strategic buyers.</p><p><br></p><blockquote>\"<em>You need to understand who your future buyers are—financial, strategic, or impact-driven—because the way you structure your assets today, including contracts and value streams, can directly influence your exit opportunities.</em>” - Jyri</blockquote><p><br></p><blockquote>\"<em>This transaction is a strong example of building an industrial-scale portfolio and finding the right buyer who understands the value created—not just in timber, but across the entire asset, including sustainability and long-term management.</em>” - Tapani</blockquote><p><br></p><p><strong>0:11</strong> Introduction to the episode</p><p><strong>0:20</strong> Meet Jyri Hietala and Tapani Pahkasalo from CapMan Natural Capital</p><p><strong>0:37</strong> Favorite trees: pine and cork oak</p><p><strong>1:46</strong> Guest backgrounds and introductions</p><p><strong>3:52</strong> Why Dassos joined CapMan</p><p><strong>7:07</strong> CapMan Natural Capital’s investment approach</p><p><strong>9:37</strong> Value creation beyond timber</p><p><strong>12:46</strong> Current investment markets in Europe</p><p><strong>13:40</strong> The Inter IKEA transaction</p><p><strong>14:35</strong> How the Baltic portfolio was built</p><p><strong>17:34</strong> Previous owners and local forest management</p><p><strong>20:12</strong> Why Inter IKEA was the right buyer</p><p><strong>21:22</strong> What made the transaction successful</p><p><strong>23:19</strong> What the deal signals for European forestry</p><p><strong>25:09</strong> Forest health, bark beetles and wood supply</p><p><strong>27:00</strong> Industrial buyers and vertical integration</p><p><strong>29:05</strong> Biodiversity and ecosystem services</p><p><strong>31:15</strong> How buyer types shape portfolio strategy</p><p><strong>37:02</strong> Offtake agreements and exit flexibility</p><p><strong>38:03</strong> Why Europe remains attractive for investors</p><p><strong>39:32</strong> Advice for new forest investors</p><p><strong>40:29</strong> Where to learn more about CapMan Natural Capital</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Founding Director and Host:</strong> Shauna Matkovich - <a href=\"https://theforestlink.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The ForestLink</a></p><p><strong>Producer and Editor:</strong> Magdalena Laas - <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/laasmagdalena/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Unscripted Creatives</a></p><p><br></p><p>Nature by MaxKoMusic/Soundcloud</p><p>Sopwell Woodlands and Scohaboy Bog SAC, Cloughjordan, Co Tipperary, IRELAND by wild_rumpus/Soundcloud</p><p>Ambient Documentary by Sound Guru (Pixabay)</p>","author_name":"Shauna Matkovich"}