{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/65804e0f1585de00125ded2d/65804e163c61a300185b5ba9?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"How Sweden stood firm: Anders Tegnell looks back on lockdown","description":"<p>In the first of this two-part lockdown retrospective, your co-pilots look back at the events of March 2020, that unexpectedly led to them being at the helm of a ‘covid podcast’.</p><p>Both are in no doubt that the pandemic has changed them. Allison feels she has lost a trust in authority as a result, whilst Liam feels he’s become steelier at arguing his opinion, after speaking out against mainstream&nbsp;thought.</p><p>Also joining our co-pilots on this very special voyage is Anders Tegnell the State Epidemiologist for Sweden during the pandemic. Hailed as a ‘pandemic hero’ Anders shares his observations from Sweden’s vastly different approach in comparison to the UK and the rest of the world.</p><p>And our co-pilots delve deep into the mailbag to look back on some of the listeners' own contemplations from the Covid-19 lockdown.</p><p><br></p><p><em>A special thank you to Linköping University for recording our interview with Anders Tegnell. </em></p><p><br></p><p><em>Read more from Liam:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/liam-halligan/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/liam-halligan/</em></a><em>&nbsp;|</em></p><p><em>Read more from Allison:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/a/ak-ao/allison-pearson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/a/ak-ao/allison-pearson/</em></a><em>&nbsp;|</em></p><p><em>Listen to a full length version of the Int with Anders Tegnell:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/23/anders-tegnell-swedens-pandemic-plan-lockdown-never-agenda/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/23/anders-tegnell-swedens-pandemic-plan-lockdown-never-agenda/</em></a></p><p><em>Listen to&nbsp;Chopper’s Politics:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"https://www.playpodca.st/chopper\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>https://www.playpodca.st/chopper</em></a><em>&nbsp;|</em></p><p><em>Need help subscribing or reviewing? Learn more about podcasts here:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/podcasts/podcast-can-find-best-ones-listen/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/radio/podcasts/podcast-can-find-best-ones-listen/</em></a><em>&nbsp;|</em></p><p><em>Email:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"mailto:planetnormal@telegraph.co.uk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>planetnormal@telegraph.co.uk</em></a><em>&nbsp;|</em></p><p><em>For 30 days’ free access to The Telegraph:&nbsp;</em><a href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/normal\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/normal</em></a><em>&nbsp;|</em></p><p>See Privacy Policy at <a href=\"https://art19.com/privacy\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href=\"https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Telegraph"}