{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/656ee493f95cc60012925da6/68b54daf35734dc719a2c365?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"#018 Kelly Lee Owens on haunted hotels, tiny venues, and the value of music","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/656ee493f95cc60012925da6/1756744721265-c5e1a57c-e1fa-4e70-ac22-2585ce6ae409.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to <a href=\"https://open.acast.com/www.acidnation.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.acidnation.com</a> to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace,&nbsp;a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!</p><p><br></p><p>--</p><p>Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@WeNotDiving\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">youtube.com/@WeNotDiving</a></p><p><br></p><p>We are finally back with a brand new episode!</p><p><br></p><p>Kelly Lee Owens is one of the most notable UK electronic musicians to emerge over the last decade. An album artist, she released her first LP back in 2017 and the most recent, Dreamstate was released on dh2 in 2024.</p><p><br></p><p>We discuss her past as a Taekwondo black belt, experiences with the supernatural, making music without knowledge of theory, the mechanics of releasing music today, as well as the challenges facing musicians and the scene more widely.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a good one!</p><p><br></p><p>--</p><p>If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show <a href=\"https://patreon.com/scubaofficial\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">on Patreon!</a> There are two tiers - \"Solidarity\" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And \"Musicality\" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.</p><p><br></p><p>You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to <a href=\"https://scubaofficial.io/support/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">scubaofficial.io/support</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the <a href=\"https://discord.com/invite/98423K8gap\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Hotflush Discord Server</a>... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to the music discussed on the show via the <a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6gs2nOUls8kP3UmMVPWhL3?si=00ba0908e4c14c4f\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist</a></p><p><br></p><p>Chapters:</p><p>00:00 Intro</p><p>03:18 Episode starts</p><p>03:43 Wrestling stan</p><p>06:13 The 5 tenets needed for Taekwondo and Music</p><p>07:30 Haunted hotels</p><p>10:35 Welsh folklore and wizardry </p><p>17:40 Music theory and the decline of music education</p><p>27:45 Waiting for the magic to happen</p><p>28:54 The importance of collaboration</p><p>32:42 \"The weight of an album will never change''</p><p>39:10 The creative process shouldn't be easy</p><p>43:30 Making the first album</p><p>49:55 The album campaign lifecycle </p><p>54:58 The rise in marketing and branding</p><p>58:40 Flogging artists and mental health</p><p>01:04:16 Working as a nurse</p><p>01:05:22 Ozzy Osbourne</p><p>01:07:24 The importance of a manager</p><p>01:09:45 Getting into Dance music</p><p>01:12:58 Decline of small venues and culture</p><p>01:18:23 The rise in touring costs </p><p>01:20:24 The Festivalisation of Dance Music</p>","author_name":"Scuba"}