{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/655b38214c0cfb0012a0f672/6aeb1bf4f502e64dc466510d?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"AI and The Audiobook Pipeline with Dan Jones","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/655b38214c0cfb0012a0f672/1793792989424-d69b18b4-a1eb-4d9e-bb24-2417bd9f9a49.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Can AI narrate a book? And should it?</p><p>Dan Jones spent 22 years at Hachette UK, seven of them as Head of Audio Services, and is now Senior Manager at Glassboxx. In this episode he takes us inside audiobook production at scale: how budgets are set, how narrators are cast across different tiers, and how authors sign off on the voice of their book.</p><p>Melissa and Dan also listen to an AI-replica narration of <em>The Odyssey</em>. Dan calls it a “rendering”: the sound design hides some of the flaws, but it lacks the dynamic range, intonation and emotional connection a human narrator brings.</p><p>Dan explains that trade publishers are largely not using AI narration, and that most of the uptake is in self-publishing and tech-led ecosystems. AI is already improving production behind the scenes, though, in editing, proofing and audio repair. They also talk about the training, stamina and preparation long-form narration demands, and why human performance still delivers something AI can’t: connection and lived experience.</p><p><strong>What we cover</strong></p><ul><li>How audiobooks are produced at scale: budgeting, casting tiers and author sign-off</li><li>Dan’s verdict on an AI-replica narration of <em>The Odyssey</em>, and why it’s a “rendering” rather than a performance</li><li>Which books need a human narrator</li><li>Why trade publishers are largely steering clear of AI narration, and where it is being used</li><li>How AI tools are already helping with editing, proofing and audio repair</li><li>Directing authors and celebrities in the booth</li><li>The stamina, training and preparation long-form narration demands</li><li>Why connection and lived experience keep the human voice ahead, and where the industry goes next</li></ul><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/post/ai-audiobooks-human-narrators\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Explore the companion notes here...</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Season Four Kickoff</p><p>01:22 Meet Dan Jones</p><p>02:23 Casting and Budgets</p><p>04:53 AI Odyssey Review</p><p>07:26 Which Books Need Humans</p><p>09:24 Where AI Is Used</p><p>12:33 BRAVA Sponsor Break</p><p>13:41 AI Tools in Production</p><p>16:00 Why Humans Still Win</p><p>18:04 Directing Authors and Celebs</p><p>20:23 Narrator Stamina and Craft</p><p>24:29 Connection and Lived Experience</p><p>27:04 Industry Outlook and Future</p><p>29:03 Wrap Up and Next Episode</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links &amp; Resources</strong></p><p><em>Dan Jones</em></p><ul><li>Dan Jones: <u><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/danjonesaudio/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_profile_view_base_contact_details%3Bs6pat%2F27T2%2Bji0q8GzGpwA%3D%3D\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">linkedin.com/in/danjonesaudio</a></u></li></ul><p><em>The Odyssey</em></p><ul><li>ElevenLabs, The Odyssey audiobook announcement: <a href=\"https://elevenlabs.io/blog/the-odyssey-michael-caine\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">ElevenLabs&#39; The Odyssey audiobook by Michael Caine&#39;s AI voice</a></li><li>Variety, Michael Caine’s AI-generated voice to narrate The Odyssey: <a href=\"https://variety.com/2026/biz/news/michael-caine-ai-odyssey-audiobook-1236787620/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Caine’s AI-Generated Voice to Narrate ‘The Odyssey’ Audiobook Ahead of Christopher Nolan’s Movie</a></li></ul><p><em>Where AI narration is being used</em></p><ul><li>TechCrunch, Audible is expanding its AI-narrated audiobook library: <a href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/13/audible-is-expanding-its-ai-narrated-audiobook-library/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Audible is expanding its AI-narrated audiobook library | TechCrunch</a></li><li>TechCrunch, Spotify launches an ElevenLabs-powered audiobook creation tool: <a href=\"https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/21/spotify-launches-an-elevenlabs-powered-audiobook-creation-tool/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify launches an ElevenLabs-powered audiobook creation tool | TechCrunch</a></li></ul><p><em>AI tools in production</em></p><ul><li>Pozotron: <a href=\"https://www.pozotron.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Audiobook Proofing Service by Pozotron</a></li></ul><p><em>The audiobook market</em></p><ul><li>Publishers Association, Publishing reaches highest ever revenue in 2025: <a href=\"https://www.publishers.org.uk/publishing-reaches-highest-ever-revenue-in-2025/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Publishing reaches highest ever revenue in 2025</a></li><li>Audio Publishers Association, sales and consumer surveys: <a href=\"https://www.audiopub.org/surveys\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Research Surveys Press Release — Homepage</a></li></ul><p><em>Previous episode</em></p><ul><li>Episode 4, <em>AI Risk Across Games, Dubbing, Commercials and Animation</em>, with David Menkin: <a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/podcast/episode/3164e62c/across-all-sectors-ai-in-games-dubbing-ads-and-animation-with-voice-and-screen-actor-david-menkin\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.brava.uk.com/podcast/episode/3164e62c/across-all-sectors-ai-in-games-dubbing-ads-and-animation-with-voice-and-screen-actor-david-menkin</a> </li></ul><p><em>BRAVA</em></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">BRAVA - Voice Acting Training</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/subscribe\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up </a>to the BRAVA newsletter</li><li><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/subscribe\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Subscribe | BRAVA</a></li></ul><p>‌</p><p>This is Season 4 of HIGH NOTES. Where every conversation is a performance.</p>","author_name":"Melissa Thom "}