{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/655b38214c0cfb0012a0f672/6ab4fbc5d4c02b0e0d00d605?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"UK AI Law and How to Protect Your Voice, with Dr Mathilde Pavis","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/655b38214c0cfb0012a0f672/1790245822446-7eee4f80-88f4-4376-945c-c3a668a70de1.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>In this episode Melissa talks to Dr Mathilde Pavis, an expert in intellectual property law, ethics and new technologies, who helped build Equity’s AI toolkit and has worked directly with AI platforms including ElevenLabs. Melissa asks her why the UK currently has no personality right for voice, how that compares to other countries, and whether the law is catching up in time. The real value here is practical: exactly what to check, ask and do to protect your own voice, as things stand today. The landscape is changing fast, so staying informed matters more than ever.</p><p><strong>What we cover</strong></p><ul><li>Why recorded voices are suddenly so valuable, and why that leaves performers and workers exposed</li><li>The UK’s patchwork of protections, and how buyout contracts and platform terms can waive them</li><li>How to protect yourself now: read contracts and terms, search them for “rights”, “waive” and “AI”, ask for carve-outs against cloning and AI training, and opt out of platform data-use settings (or contact support)</li><li>Digital twin dealbreakers: ask early whether AI will be used, and make sure any replica is project-specific, time-bound and agreed in writing. Know who builds it, who uses it and who can access it, prevent it being sold on, and secure the right to have it deleted</li><li>How the UK compares with the US, the EU and Denmark, and why UK policy keeps stalling</li></ul><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro</p><p>01:06 Mathilde’s Background</p><p>01:53 Why Voice Is Valuable Now</p><p>03:40 Workplace Voice Protection</p><p>07:00 AI Clauses and Transparency</p><p>08:07 Performers and UK Patchwork Rights</p><p>11:22 Contracts and Consent Basics</p><p>12:48 Pay-to-Play Platform Risks</p><p>17:35 Opting Out and Taking Action</p><p>19:29 Why UK Law Falls Short</p><p>24:21 Digital Replica vs Personality Rights</p><p>29:17 UK vs US and EU Protections</p><p>31:22 EU Transparency Rules</p><p>33:37 Denmark Leads on Likeness</p><p>36:14 Contracts Need Safeguards</p><p>37:47 Why UK Policy Stalls</p><p>40:02 Consent and Data Rights</p><p>42:13 Is It Too Late?</p><p>43:57 Workplace Voice Precautions</p><p>45:08 Performer Contract Basics</p><p>47:39 Digital Twin Dealbreakers</p><p>53:05 AI Riders and Agents</p><p>55:40 Final Takeaways and the Future</p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/post/voice-cloning-law-uk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Explore the episode companion notes here...</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links &amp; Resources</strong></p><p><em>Dr Mathilde Pavis</em></p><ul><li>Dr Mathilde Pavis, Legal Counsel &amp; Policy Adviser on AI: <u><a href=\"https://www.mathildepavis.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.mathildepavis.com/</a></u></li><li>Agents Counsel: <u><a href=\"https://www.agentscounsel.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.agentscounsel.com</a></u></li><li>Free resources for agents: <u><a href=\"https://www.agentscounsel.com/resources\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.agentscounsel.com/resources</a></u></li></ul><p><em>Policy</em></p><ul><li>UK Government Report on Copyright and AI (18 March 2026), Impact Assessment: <u><a href=\"https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/report-and-impact-assessment-on-copyright-and-artificial-intelligence/copyright-and-artificial-intelligence-impact-assessment\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/report-and-impact-assessment-on-copyright-and-artificial-intelligence/copyright-and-artificial-intelligence-impact-assessment</a></u></li></ul><p><em>Unions, associations and campaigns</em></p><ul><li>Equity AI toolkit and template contract: <u><a href=\"https://www.equity.org.uk/advice-and-support/know-your-rights/ai-toolkit/understanding-ai\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.equity.org.uk/advice-and-support/know-your-rights/ai-toolkit/understanding-ai</a></u> (see also Episode 2, <em>Cloned Without Consent</em>, with voice actor Faye Dicker and Equity’s Shannon Sailing: <u><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/podcast/episode/1bb455dd/cloned-without-consent-with-voice-actor-faye-dicker-and-equitys-shannon-sailing\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.brava.uk.com/podcast/episode/1bb455dd/cloned-without-consent-with-voice-actor-faye-dicker-and-equitys-shannon-sailing</a></u> )</li><li>NAVA (US), National Association of Voice Actors: <u><a href=\"https://navavoices.org/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://navavoices.org/</a></u></li><li>Save Our Voices Now: <u><a href=\"https://saveourvoicesnow.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://saveourvoicesnow.com/</a></u></li></ul><p>‌</p><p><em>BRAVA</em></p><ul><li><u><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.brava.uk.com/</a></u></li></ul><p>Sign up to the BRAVA newsletter</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.brava.uk.com/subscribe\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.brava.uk.com/subscribe</a></li></ul><p>This is Season 4 of HIGH NOTES. Where every conversation is a performance.</p><p>‌</p><p><strong><em>**This episode is for general information and isn’t legal advice. For your own situation, speak to a lawyer, your agent or your union.**</em></strong></p>","author_name":"Melissa Thom "}