{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6530ec9c7a90ab0012193f16/66fa7d6371888fe6b1c10767?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Poems about pies, the foul-mouthed parrot upstaging Margaret Atwood and starting World War III via Desert Island Discs: Ian McMillan on the Country Life Podcast","description":"<p>What is the fundamental job of a writer? 'We try to turn the world into language,' according to the poet, broadcaster and writer Ian McMillan.</p><p><br></p><p>Ian, one of Britain's best-loved poets and writers, as well as the presenter of <em>The Verb</em> on BBC Radio 4, joined James Fisher on the Country Life Podcast in what is one of the most entertaining and wide-ranging chats so far.</p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/country-life/id1717179540\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Listen to Country Life podcast on Apple Podcasts</a></li><li><a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/7vIDhrzFJddGkV3AyYLgBE\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Listen to Country Life podcast on Spotify</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/Country-Life-Podcast/B0CLGBV3P2\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Listen to Country Life podcast on Audible</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>James and Ian start off by discussing Under the Changing Skies, a collection of highlights from The Guardian's long-running Country Diary series. It's a collection for which Ian has penned the foreword, despite admitting that he'd be 'no good at all' at writing the column himself.</p><p><br></p><p>'You've only got 200 words, 200-and-odd words,' says Ian. 'I'd still be clearing my throat at 250 words, and might just be ready to go at 300 words.'</p><p><br></p><p>Ian and James go on to talk about an amazing: nature, writing, inspiration and more, with some wonderful anecdotes added in from an illustrious career (Ian's, that is; not James's). There's also a chance for Ian to explain why he chose John Cage's <em>4 minutes 33 seconds of silence</em> when he appeared on Desert Island Discs —&nbsp;a quirky choice to put it mildly, and one which might conceivably have had some rather alarming unintended consequences.</p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9781783353101-under-the-changing-skies/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Under the Changing Skies: The best of The Guardian's Country Diary, 2018-2024</em></a><em> is out now, published by Faber (£20)</em></p>","author_name":"Country Life"}