{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/651b0df875e52b001192e36d/69b04107738d6fbbf2117da7?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"E51: The Origination Edge: How Herringbone is Buying Agencies at Velocity","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/651b0df875e52b001192e36d/1773158119755-e9b282cd-e359-4974-81e8-0fe455fe1152.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p><strong>Summary</strong></p><p>In this episode, Azim Nagree, head of M&amp;A at Herringbone Digital, shares insights on building a successful origination engine, the importance of early and honest communication in M&amp;A, and how agencies can prepare for sale by focusing on retention, growth, and profitability.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Open and honest conversations early in the process streamline deals.</li><li>Retention rate of 80% is a key indicator of business health.</li><li>Growth of 15-20% and EBITDA of 20-25% are desirable benchmarks.</li><li>AI should improve core business metrics to add value.</li><li>Founders should focus on building a strong foundation before sale.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 Introduction and Milestone Celebration</p><p>01:10 Azim Nagree’s Background and Herringbone's Focus</p><p>05:42 Herringbone's Acquisition Strategy and Ideal Targets</p><p>07:49 Relationship with Private Equity and Deal Support</p><p>09:21 Lessons from Deal Experience and Early Communication</p><p>13:43 Deal Origination Process and Tech Stack</p><p>15:00 Defining the Prospect Universe and Narrowing the Buy Box</p><p>16:33 Balancing Organic and Broker Deal Sourcing</p><p>18:43 Assessing Seller Readiness and Valuation Expectations</p><p>20:01 Using the 'Magic Number' to Evaluate Sellers</p><p>23:57 The Triangle of Value: Retention, Growth, Profitability</p><p>25:21 Evaluating EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA</p><p>28:57 Retention and Growth Benchmarks for Agencies</p><p>29:59 The Leaky Bucket Problem in Agencies</p><p>30:05 Identifying Signs of Retention Issues</p><p>30:36 Impact of AI on Agency Valuation and Performance</p><p>34:09 Common Mistakes Before Selling an Agency</p><p>35:36 Advice for Founders Considering Exit</p><p>36:47 Managing Communications with Potential Buyers</p><p>39:51 Closing Remarks and Key Takeaways</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Christian and Ayelet</strong></p><p>Ayelet’s LinkedIn: <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayelet-shipley-b16330149/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayelet-shipley-b16330149/</a></p><p>Christian's LinkedIn: <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassold/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassold/</a></p><p>Web: <a href=\"https://www.inorganicpodcast.co\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.inorganicpodcast.co</a></p><p>In/organic on YouTube: <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@InorganicPodcast/featured\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/@InorganicPodcast/featured</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect with Azim Nagree on LinkedIn</strong></p><p>Herringbone Digital - <a href=\"https://herringbonedigital.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://herringbonedigital.com</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Azim Nagree on LinkedIn <a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/azimnagree/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/in/azimnagree/</a>&nbsp;</p>","author_name":"Christian Hassold & Ayelet Shipley"}