{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/64588e1a109688001189970b/6747dc71c4b78e9ebb4a9e15?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Deeply Repulsive","description":"<p>In this episode of <em>Can We Be Real?</em>, we unpack the controversy surrounding ABC boss Kim Williams’ remarks about Joe Rogan and the shocking public response. Williams’ outdated perspective on the rise of digital media reflects a growing divide between traditional media and the modern audience.</p><p><br></p><p>Here’s the reality check: the audience will always decide. Currently, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News—the titans of traditional media—have a combined audience of 5.2 million viewers. Meanwhile, Joe Rogan commands an incredible 11 million listeners per episode. Full stop.</p><p><br></p><p>We explore why dismissing platforms like like podcasts isn’t just a misstep but a symptom of traditional media’s decline. </p><p><br></p><p>Join our <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/share/g/15G24vQviW/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>CWBR Facebook Group</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"Meshel Laurie and Simon Baggs"}