{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/641d0ceb-82b0-4151-9d78-094a107e8f15/e8b1844e-763f-48de-a369-75810d3ce74f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"jay hulme: what's the point of being normal?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60f6c7ec8c2ca0604430808d/60f6c7f5fd5fdb00127365ff.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>Michael and Mark talk to poet and author Jay Hulme about softness, the size of horses, and queer Christianity.</p><p><br></p><p>CW: this episode contains a reference to an attempted suicide.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow menkind on&nbsp;<a href=\"https://twitter.com/menkindpodcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/menkindpodcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a>&nbsp;@menkindpodcast</p><p><br></p><p>Recorded and edited by Victoria Payne and Lianne Coop for&nbsp;<a href=\"http://impatientproductionsuk.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Impatient Productions</a>. Artwork by Haiminh Le.</p>","author_name":"Mark Watson and Michael Chakraverty, Impatient Productions"}