{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/641338125bde790011089c5b/67099af663ba29347844c04a?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Free State Interviews: Dion talks to author Robert Harris","description":"<p>\"Almost nobody in the world who has ever got power has wanted to lose it,” author Robert Harris tells Dion during this special episode of Free State.&nbsp;Harris was once a political journalist and he became close to Tony Blair but absorbed the change in Blair as he moved from everyman to a messianic figure.&nbsp;Dion and Harris discuss what drives politicians and how they are different from the rest of us.&nbsp;Dion also solves a mystery that has bothered him for nearly 20 years.</p><p><br></p><p><em>Free State with Joe Brolly and Dion Fanning is a Gold Hat Production in association with SwanMcG Productions.</em></p><p><br></p><p>For more on Free State: <a href=\"https://freestatepodcast.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://freestatepodcast.com/</a></p>","author_name":"Gold Hat Productions"}