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In this episode of season 2 of Unlikely Gifts, Frank Boswell sits down with Kupenda for the Children co-founders Leonard Mbonani and Cynthia Bauer to explore the role patience plays in creating lasting change. Drawing on personal experiences, disability advocacy, and years of community transformation in Kenya, they discuss what it means to persevere through misunderstanding, suffering, and slow progress. Listen as they reflect on lessons learned from children with disabilities, the power of relationships over productivity, and why some of the most meaningful miracles take time.


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Kupenda for the Children

Introduction by: Tom Tasselmeyer

Moderator: Frank Boswell

Guests: Cynthia Bauer, Leonard Mbonani

Audio engineering: Phillip Knowlton

Music composed by and used with permission from: Jacob Sanders


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