{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/63e46015f51cd50011b8fcc1/6a1dae1b893d35377d04612c?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"What's the Fuss About Data Centers?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/63e46015f51cd50011b8fcc1/1780330007300-f88fd87d-8d31-4edd-b8af-8e94dee0a1ab.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>The cloud was humming along just fine. Then AI walked in.</p><p><br></p><p>In part two, Aicila and John dig into why AI data centers are a fundamentally different beast from the cloud infrastructure we've been using for decades — and why the timing couldn't be worse. More power, more water, more heat, less accountability, and a deregulatory environment that's removing the guardrails just as the stakes get higher.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p><ul><li>How the pandemic accelerated cloud adoption — and set the stage for AI's arrival</li><li>What large language models actually are and why they're such resource hogs (GPT-3.5: 45 terabytes of training data; GPT-4: a full petabyte — a 22-fold increase in months)</li><li>Why local AI models on your phone or laptop exist, and what Apple and Microsoft are quietly doing about data center costs</li><li>The uncomfortable truth: only Microsoft, Amazon, and Google are profitable in AI — everyone else is burning venture capital</li><li>Traditional data centers vs. AI-centric ones: an order of magnitude more power, an order of magnitude more heat</li><li>Why the most sustainable operators are actually the big cloud companies — and why the AI startups aren't following their lead</li><li>What EPA gutting and deregulation means for where this is all heading</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>The BiCurean thread:</strong> The technology <em>could</em> be built sustainably. The problem isn't capability — it's who's building it, how fast, and with whose money.</p><p><br></p><p><em>Next episode: What's actually being done, and what you can do. </em></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Resources</strong></p><p><br></p><p>AI and water</p><p>Not just use- also cooling and contamination</p><p><a href=\"https://undark.org/2025/12/16/ai-data-centers-water/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://undark.org/2025/12/16/ai-data-centers-water/</a></p><p><a href=\"https://mostpolicyinitiative.org/science-note/data-center-water-use/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://mostpolicyinitiative.org/science-note/data-center-water-use/</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Innovative ways to use data center energy-</p><p><a href=\"https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/deutsche-telekom-hooks-up-berlin-data-center-to-local-district-heating-system/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/deutsche-telekom-hooks-up-berlin-data-center-to-local-district-heating-system/</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>World Resource&nbsp;</p><p><a href=\"https://www.wri.org/insights/us-data-center-growth-impacts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.wri.org/insights/us-data-center-growth-impacts</a></p><p><br></p><p>Politico-&nbsp;</p><p><a href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/26/ai-data-centers-georgia-midterms-00888668\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/26/ai-data-centers-georgia-midterms-00888668</a></p><p><br></p><p>AI data Centers- Atlantic</p><p><a href=\"https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/04/ai-data-centers-energy-demands/686064/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/04/ai-data-centers-energy-demands/686064/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Living in Hell- data center neighbors grapple with noise, air pollution</p><p><a href=\"https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2026-04-28/living-in-hell-data-center-neighbors-grapple-with-noise-air-pollution\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2026-04-28/living-in-hell-data-center-neighbors-grapple-with-noise-air-pollution</a></p><p><br></p><p>Delivering an Open Data Center Ecosystem for AI</p><p><a href=\"https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/delivering-an-open-data-center-ecosystem-for-ai-302756458.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/delivering-an-open-data-center-ecosystem-for-ai-302756458.html</a></p><p><br></p><p>Server Racks /&nbsp;Data center</p><p><a href=\"https://www.cdw.com/product/startech-4-post-26u-wall-mount-network-cabinet-19-hinged-wall-mounted-serv/4705173\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.cdw.com/product/startech-4-post-26u-wall-mount-network-cabinet-19-hinged-wall-mounted-serv/4705173</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>ChatGPT4 data sizes</p><p><a href=\"https://seifeur.com/gpt-4-model-size/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://seifeur.com/gpt-4-model-size/</a></p><p><br></p><p>ChatGPT Model Version History:</p><p><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChatGPT#Model_versions\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChatGPT#Model_versions</a></p><p><br></p><p>OpenAI revenue growth, still operating at a loss:</p><p><a href=\"https://www.ainvest.com/news/openai-explosive-revenue-growth-implications-ai-ecosystem-2507/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.ainvest.com/news/openai-explosive-revenue-growth-implications-ai-ecosystem-2507/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Other AI Revenue (DO NOT SHOW ON AIR- COPYRIGHTED)</p><p><a href=\"https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-the-soaring-revenues-of-ai-companies-2023-2025/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted-the-soaring-revenues-of-ai-companies-2023-2025/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Sustainable Cloud Computing companies:</p><p><a href=\"https://sustainabilitymag.com/top10/top-10-sustainable-cloud-companies\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://sustainabilitymag.com/top10/top-10-sustainable-cloud-companies</a></p><p><br></p><p>The Green Grid (Industry coalition for green computing):</p><p>https://www.thegreengrid.org/</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Different states pursuing laws and regulations:</p><p><a href=\"https://www.afslaw.com/perspectives/alerts/state-regulation-data-centers-2026-shifting-landscape\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.afslaw.com/perspectives/alerts/state-regulation-data-centers-2026-shifting-landscape</a></p><p><br></p><p>Harvard Kennedy School / Belfer Center paper on AI, Data Centers, and the U.S. Electric Grid: AWatershed Moment</p><p><a href=\"https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/2026-02/Mural%20et%20al_AI%20Data%20Centers%20Grid_20260206.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.belfercenter.org/sites/default/files/2026-02/Mural%20et%20al_AI%20Data%20Centers%20Grid_20260206.pdf</a></p>","author_name":"Aicila"}