{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6370462a92fc3600127b9b7e/659d97361e5c9b0018402dd4?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Grief Is A Learning Process","description":"<p>This week I speak with Elise Gaul, a therapist specializing in grief and loss who works in multiple modalities including EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitizing and Reprocessing) therapy. Elise explains why EMDR works well to address \"covert grief,\" a term she coined for the parts of childhood grief that can profoundly affect a person's life, often without their awareness. Her stints as the executive director of a grief center called Peter's Place and the director of Camp Erin, a bereavement camp for children led us to talk about what parents and caregivers can do to minimize the long-term negative effects of grief on kids. I loved Elise's attitude about grief as a learning process and her curiosity and interest in working with adults to try to unlock some of the negative beliefs that childhood grief can create. </p><p><br></p><p>To learn more about Elise and her work please visit <a href=\"https://elisegaul.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">her website</a></p><p><br></p><p>To read Elise's fascinating article on Covert Grief that led me to invite her on the show read this <a href=\"https://maibergerinstitute.com/covert-grief-adults-revisiting-childhood-loss-using-emdr-therapy/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">blog post</a></p><p><br></p><p>To learn more about EMDR visit <a href=\"https://www.apa.org/ptsd-guideline/treatments/eye-movement-reprocessing\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">APA</a> or <a href=\"https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">EMDRIA</a></p><p><br></p><p>Please take a moment to rate and review the show or leave comments on my Substack <a href=\"https://annfaison.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">\"I'm Listening.\"</a></p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to Josephine Wiggs for the intro and outro music from her album <a href=\"https://josephinewiggs.bandcamp.com/album/we-fall\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">\"We Fall.\"</a></p>","author_name":"Ann Faison"}