{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/633c203337c97b00125ed1f3/6aa979427432398e95e18478?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Data-backed competitive tiredness (with Caitlin Moran)","description":"<p>Fi 's spun the hypothetical wheel of co-presenters today and landed on Rosie. On today's agenda: mental load and why it's not always a bad thing, England's crash out of the supermarket world cup and a minor disagreement on the art deco façade of the Bury St Edmunds M&amp;S. Niche? Us?</p><p><br></p><p>Plus, Fi chats to Caitlin Moran on her new book <em>How to Be Hopeful </em></p><p><br></p><p>You can buy tickets to the Cheltenham Literature Festival here: www.cheltenhamfestivals.org/events/jane-garvey-and-fi-glover-with-anneka-rice.</p><p><br></p><p>You can check out our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@OffAirWithJaneAndFi.</p><p><br></p><p>Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton. </p><p><br></p><p>If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio. </p>","author_name":"The Times"}