{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/633c1060ee21490012381e3f/6af1d6df4639eb370f5c9b9f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"E158: Ronan McGreevy — The Secret in Seán Lemass's Past That History Missed","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/633c1060ee21490012381e3f/1794233185258-2a32e63d-e27e-4a36-878c-85b756cae64b.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>AT 16, SEÁN LEMASS ACCIDENTALLY SHOT HIS BABY BROTHER. WHY DID FIVE OR SIX BIOGRAPHIES MISS IT?</p><p>RONAN MCGREEVY ON THE EXTRAORDINARY STORY OF IRELAND&#39;S MOST CONSEQUENTIAL TAOISEACH.</p><p><br></p><p>What did Seán Lemass really think? And what has history overlooked?</p><p>Irish Times journalist and author Ronan McGreevy joins Peter Leonard and Mark Tottenham at the Kilkenny Law Festival to discuss <em>Seán Lemass: The Lost Memoir</em> — including a shocking discovery about Lemass&#39;s teenage years, his role in the revolutionary period, Bloody Sunday, his relationship with de Valera and the economic transformation of Ireland.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus, three legal cases: a disputed family guarantee, the evidence of a protected witness who admitted perjury, and the High Court&#39;s approach to capacity and vulnerability.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>THE FIFTH COURT</strong> — No Ordinary Courtroom, presented by Peter Leonard and Mark Tottenham.</p><p><br></p><p>The legal cases section of this episode is sponsored by Charltons Solicitors, of Dún Laoghaire, Dublin — solicitors and collaborative practitioners specialising in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.</p><p><strong>CHAPTERS</strong></p><p>00:00 Welcome to The Fifth Court</p><p>02:13 The legal cases: family guarantees, protected witnesses and capacity</p><p>05:20 Ronan McGreevy at the Kilkenny Law Festival</p><p>06:09 Ronan&#39;s books and the Seán Lemass story</p><p>07:14 The lost memoir: 23 interviews and 22 hours of recordings</p><p>10:51 Seán Lemass&#39;s early life on Capel Street</p><p>12:50 The extraordinary discovery about Lemass&#39;s baby brother</p><p>16:25 Lemass and the 1916 Rising</p><p>18:07 Bloody Sunday: did Lemass kill Geoffrey Bagley?</p><p>20:11 The Treaty and the Civil War</p><p>21:41 The killing of Lemass&#39;s brother Noel</p><p>24:12 The extraordinary libel case and the Hospital Sweepstakes</p><p>25:59 Lemass and de Valera: a political partnership</p><p>28:44 Building Irish industry</p><p>34:56 The Lemass years and Ireland&#39;s economic crisis</p><p>37:18 Opening Ireland to foreign investment</p><p>39:20 Ireland, Europe and the EEC</p><p>42:44 Lemass reaches out to Northern Ireland</p><p>46:16 What Lemass thought of John F. Kennedy</p><p>47:56 Why Lemass left office</p><p>49:15 Charles Haughey: the son-in-law question</p><p>51:59 The private life of Seán Lemass</p><p>53:26 Closing the interview</p><p><br></p><p><strong>ABOUT THE GUEST</strong></p><p>Ronan McGreevy is a journalist with The Irish Times and an author and editor of several books on Irish history. His books include <em>Wherever the Firing Line Extends: Ireland and the Western Front</em>, <em>Great Hatred: The Assassination of Field Marshal Sir Henry Wilson</em> and <em>Seán Lemass: The Lost Memoir</em>.</p><p><strong>ABOUT THE FIFTH COURT</strong></p><p>The Fifth Court explores legal affairs, landmark cases, the people behind the law and the stories that shape Ireland.</p><p>Presented by Peter Leonard, barrister and mediator, and Mark Tottenham, barrister and trust and estate practitioner.</p><p>Recorded at the Kilkenny Law Festival.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen, follow and share The Fifth Court. If you enjoy the show, please leave a rating and review.</strong></p>","author_name":"Peter Leonard BL Mark Tottenham BL"}