{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62db8e1bf4c8b2001486b951/69b93bb4b5ba12a227cd5f88?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ep. 41 Awareness is Cute. Inclusion is Better","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62db8e1bf4c8b2001486b951/1773746831604-1c92cae3-abb0-40fa-979f-21a434e7cd90.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Neurodiversity is bigger than autism and ADHD, and awareness alone is not the same thing as inclusion.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, Callie and Jayne kick off <strong>Neurodiversity Celebration Week 2026</strong> by unpacking what neurodiversity actually means, why it is a social identity rather than a medical label, and why so many workplace conversations still flatten it into stereotypes, checklists, and entry-level training.</p><p>They talk about the problem with ‘autism and others’ thinking, why <strong>resist the list</strong> matters, and what happens when organisations say all the right things but their systems, culture, and leadership behaviours do not actually change.</p><p><br></p><p>They also answer a listener question about the difference between <strong>awareness</strong> and <strong>real inclusion</strong> in practice, exploring microaggressions, assigning intent, conflicting needs between neurodivergent people, and how to tell whether a workplace is genuinely trying to improve.</p><p>This one is part celebration, part side-eye, and part practical reality check.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>In this episode</strong></p><ul><li>what neurodiversity actually means</li><li>why it is bigger than autism and ADHD</li><li>why awareness without systems change falls flat</li><li><strong>resist the list</strong>: the problem with stereotypes and trait checklists</li><li>how to tell whether a workplace is truly inclusive</li><li>microaggressions, intent, repair, and real progress</li><li>a quick look at the <strong>WILDly Neuro-inclusive Awards</strong></li></ul><p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p><p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p><p><strong>00:11</strong> Welcome and Neurodiversity Celebration Week begins</p><p><strong>01:40</strong> What this episode is really about: awareness vs inclusion</p><p><strong>02:03</strong> Neurodiversity is bigger than autism and ADHD</p><p><strong>02:42</strong> Neurodiversity as a social identity, not a medical term</p><p><strong>05:24</strong> Why the numbers are likely bigger than reported</p><p><strong>05:53</strong> DCA and AMAZE’s Neurodiversity at Work Guide</p><p><strong>08:08</strong> Diagnosis, identity, and barriers to being recognised</p><p><strong>08:46</strong> The problem with ‘autism and others’ training</p><p><strong>10:04</strong> <strong>Resist the List</strong> and why stereotypes are harmful</p><p><strong>11:24</strong> Why entry-level training misses too many neurodivergent adults</p><p><strong>12:39</strong> Perimenopause, nervous systems, and the broader neurodiversity conversation</p><p><strong>17:22</strong> Listener question: awareness vs real inclusion at work</p><p><strong>19:24</strong> Why systems, processes, and leadership matter</p><p><strong>21:22</strong> What happens when neurodivergent needs clash</p><p><strong>22:34</strong> Pain, perfection, and the pressure for workplaces to get it right</p><p><strong>23:48</strong> Assigning intent and stepping back from the moment</p><p><strong>24:24</strong> Microaggressions, trauma lenses, and ‘micro receivings’</p><p><strong>25:42</strong> Don’t let perfection get in the way of progress</p><p><strong>26:01</strong> What genuine effort actually looks like</p><p><strong>27:37</strong> Acknowledging mistakes, correcting, and moving on</p><p><strong>29:47</strong> Launching the WILDly Neuro-inclusive Awards</p><p><strong>31:22</strong> Hope, frustration, and the future of neuroinclusion</p><p><strong>32:35</strong> Follow, subscribe, and send us your ADHD tax stories</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Connect</strong></p><p>Find us on YouTube, Instagram and TikTok at <strong>F Them Fish: AuDHD for Grownups</strong></p><p>Send your stories and questions to <strong>FThemFish@gmail.com</strong></p>","author_name":"F them fish"}