{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62bc729dcf1ab400126c1e1b/69d165c6f44b357ce9308be6?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Julianna Barwick & Mary Lattimore: Like Tears in Rain","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/62bc729dcf1ab400126c1e1b/1775330562317-75423c3c-d0df-4b41-8527-46813da37458.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Today, we’re putting <em>The Tonearm</em>'s needle on <strong>Julianna Barwick</strong> and <strong>Mary Lattimore</strong>.</p><p>Julianna is a composer, vocalist, and producer whose music is built almost entirely from layered, looped human voices. Mary is a harpist who has spent years pushing that instrument into a vast, exploratory realm.</p><p>In January 2025, the two flew to Paris just days after the LA wildfires tore through their community. There, they spent nine days recording with instruments pulled from a museum, including harps dating back to 1728 and vintage analog synthesizers. The result is <em>Tragic Magic</em>, out on InFiné, and it's one of the most talked-about records of the year so far.</p><p>Julianna and Mary just returned from Big Ears Festival and, in a few days, are heading back to Paris to perform these songs live with those same instruments. We caught them as they were preparing for the trip.</p><p>(The musical excerpts heard in the interview are from Julianna Barwick &amp; Mary Lattimore's <em>Tragic Magic</em>)</p><p>—</p><h2>Dig Deeper</h2><p>• <strong>Artist and Album:</strong></p><ul><li>Visit Julianna Barwick at <a href=\"https://juliannabarwick.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">juliannabarwick.com</a> and follow her on <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/juliannabarwick/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a> and <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/JuliannaBarwick/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook</a></li><li>Visit Mary Lattimore at <a href=\"https://marylattimore.net/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">marylattimore.net</a> and follow her on <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/maryoverthere/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a> and <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/harpistmarylattimore/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook</a></li><li>Purchase <em>Tragic Magic</em> from <a href=\"https://infine-music.com/mary-lattimore-julianna-barwick/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">InFiné</a>, <a href=\"https://juliannabarwick.bandcamp.com/album/tragic-magic\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bandcamp</a>, or <a href=\"https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/tragic-magic-julianna-barwick-mary-lattimore/m4vcvmfche8hb\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Qobuz</a> and listen on your <a href=\"https://idol-io.ffm.to/tragicmagic\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">streaming platform of choice</a></li></ul><p>• <strong>Recording Location:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://philharmoniedeparis.fr/en/musee-de-la-musique\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Philharmonie de Paris — Musée de la Musique</a> — the museum whose instrument collection made the album possible</li><li><a href=\"https://collectionsdumusee.philharmoniedeparis.fr/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Musée de la Musique collections database</a> — searchable archive of the museum's historic instruments</li></ul><p>• <strong>Collaborators:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.rogereno.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Roger Eno</a> — composer of \"Temple of the Winds,\" written for voice and harp after a shared lunch with Barwick and Lattimore in Melbourne</li><li><a href=\"https://trevorspencer.biz/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Trevor Spencer</a> — engineer, additional producer, and mixer on <em>Tragic Magic</em>; known for his work with Fleet Foxes and Beach House</li></ul><p>• <strong>Instruments:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Hochbrucker\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jacob Hochbrücker</a> — maker of the 1728 harp used for \"Temple of the Winds\"; one of the oldest instruments on the album</li><li><a href=\"https://www.camac-harps.com/blog/en/latest/the-legacy-of-erard/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Érard harps</a> — the French instrument maker whose 1799 and 1873 harps Mary Lattimore used throughout the sessions</li><li><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophet-5\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sequential Circuits Prophet-5</a> — the synthesizer Julianna Barwick chose; introduced in 1978 as the first fully programmable polyphonic synthesizer</li><li><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Jupiter-8\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Roland Jupiter-8</a> — the second synthesizer Barwick used; the \"Jupiter\" referenced throughout the episode</li><li><a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg_VC-10\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Korg VC-10 Vocoder</a> — used by Barwick on \"Stardust\" and elsewhere on the album</li></ul><p>• <strong>Visual Art — James Turrell:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://jamesturrell.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">James Turrell</a> — the light artist whose work both Barwick and Lattimore cite as a significant influence</li><li><a href=\"https://massmoca.org/event/james-turrell/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">James Turrell: Into the Light at MASS MoCA</a> — where Barwick and Lattimore opened Turrell's newest Skyspace, C.A.V.U.</li><li><a href=\"https://benesse-artsite.jp/en/art/chichu.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Chichu Art Museum, Naoshima</a> — permanent Turrell installations on the Japanese island Mary mentions visiting</li><li><a href=\"http://web.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/turrell/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">James Turrell retrospective at the Guggenheim</a> — the 2013 exhibition (<em>Aten Reign</em>) that first brought Mary to Turrell's work after reading a <a href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/07/01/seeing-and-disbelieving\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>New Yorker</em> review</a></li></ul><p>• <strong>Previous InFiné / Musée de la Musique Collaborations:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://arandel.bandcamp.com/album/inbach\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>InBach</em> by Arandel (2020)</a> — the first album in InFiné's Musée de la Musique series, featuring Baroque instruments</li><li><a href=\"https://sebmartel.bandcamp.com/album/saturn-63\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Saturn 63</em> by Seb Martel (2022)</a> — the second album in the series; <em>Tragic Magic</em> is the third</li></ul><p>—</p><ul><li>Dig into this episode's complete show notes at <a href=\"https://www.podcast.thetonearm.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">podcast.thetonearm.com</a></li></ul><p>—</p><p>• Did you enjoy this episode? 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