{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62b755f6d09b7b0013c62e2a/67bb289eb628e470d3af1cc8?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Joanna Kavenna: 'We all make fictions about the future'","description":"<p>After hearing from Helga Schubert, Ben Sorgiovanni, Julian George and Rachida Lamrabet, we bring this Winter series of podcasts to a close with Joanna Kavenna and her short story Notes on the Future.</p><p><br></p><p>Kavenna tells us how this story was born from an obsession with patterns and a robust detachment from her characters.</p><p><br></p><p>\"I like to have quite questing narrators,\" she says, \"who are desperately trying to find meaning in a world that keeps depriving them of meaning. Which is probably quite autobiographical.\"</p><p><br></p><p>When you’re writing, Kavenna continues, you’re constantly forced up against the gap between language and the world. But it’s a question that none of us can avoid.</p><p><br></p><p>\"All of us are in this,\" she explains, \"whether we like to be or not. And it’s this strange illogic logic that we’re all existing within.\"</p><p><br></p><p>While the characters in Kavenna’s novel A Field Guide to Reality are in pursuit of a book that will answer all their questions, Notes on the Future begins when a book which promises to reveal the future is found. But according to Kavenna the future is \"a massive area of complete, unknowable fiction\" for us all.</p><p><br></p><p>\"There’s something quite powerful about the predictions of the future that we all make,\" she says, \"because we’re more likely – potentially – to unravel things towards them.\"</p><p><br></p><p>Even if we could conjure a world in which we know everything, it’s not clear that we would want to take that path.</p><p><br></p><p>\"Would we want to know the full remit of the future,\" Kavenna asks, \"or would that be actually the most horrifying nightmare of all?\"</p><p><br></p><p>The AI-driven future imagined in the author’s novel Zed takes her characters dangerously close to that precipice.</p><p><br></p><p>\"I felt really sorry for them,\" she admits, \"because I put them in this dystopia, which seemed really unfair after spending so long with them.\"</p><p><br></p><p>Five years after Zed hit the shelves, that future is coming down the track with alarming speed.</p><p><br></p><p>\"If you’re going to be compelled to live in a certain reality,\" Kavenna says, \"it would be nice to be asked. And I think that’s the major political question that we now have.\"</p>","author_name":"Fictionable"}