{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/629d98cad435d300126b7044/69af02bbb58ea3074dbec1fe?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Why Your \"Bad\" Drawing Is Actually a Leadership Superpower | Lisa Rothstein  | #TGV","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/629d98cad435d300126b7044/1784276397041-7695533a-3bd7-48b8-aa9f-6680fb4fc814.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Is your team drowning in \"death by PowerPoint\"?</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of The Guiding Voice, we sit down with Lisa Rothstein, a New Yorker cartoonist and Fortune 500 strategist, to discuss why \"the worse it looks, the better it works.\" Discover how simple, imperfect sketches can collapse year-long decision cycles into 90-minute sessions, cut through cultural barriers, and build genuine team consensus in a way that AI-polished slides never can.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, you’ll learn:</p><p>Why visible imperfection is the #1 proof of humanity in an AI world.</p><p>The \"Smile-Slide-Sketch\" framework for maintaining high engagement in any meeting.</p><p>The 3 universal symbols every leader should know (Character, Concept, and Context).</p><p>How to reframe \"I can't draw\" into a powerful tool for participation.</p><p>Why Thomas Edison and Marie Curie were actually \"bad\" artists—and why it mattered.</p><p>Ready to draw out your genius? Grab a marker and let’s dive in.</p><p><br></p><p>Chapters &amp; Timestamps</p><p>00:00 - The Power of Seeing Others' Perspectives</p><p>00:44 - The 90-Second Customer Story Exercise </p><p>01:25 - Why Rough Sketches Beat PowerPoint </p><p>02:25 - Welcome to The Guiding Voice (TGV) </p><p>03:13 - Introducing Lisa Rothstein: Cartoonist &amp; Strategist </p><p>04:04 - Why You Should Listen: The Shortcut to Consensus </p><p>04:49 - Rapid Fire Round 1: Curiosity, AI, &amp; Leadership </p><p>07:01 - Lisa’s Guiding Voice: \"The War of Art\" </p><p>07:50 - Success Mantra: Adaptability &amp; Enthusiasm </p><p>09:10 - What Actually Happens in a 90-Minute Sketch Session? </p><p>11:32 - Proof of Humanity: Why Messy Marks Build Trust </p><p>14:46 - Cutting Through Language Barriers with Visuals </p><p>17:36 - The Leader’s Minimal Sketch Toolkit </p><p>19:18 - The \"Smile-Slide-Sketch\" Engagement Method </p><p>20:44 - 3 Drawings Every Non-Artist Should Learn </p><p>25:56 - AI vs. Human Marks: Where to Draw the Line</p><p>28:22 - Is it \"Childish\"? Reframing Skepticism for Executives </p><p>30:10 - Case Study: Moving Stone-Cold Engineers to Action </p><p>33:47 - Visual Storytelling: The Cliff &amp; The Bridge </p><p>36:12 - Using Symbols: People, Process, Profit, &amp; Product </p><p>38:05 - When Sketching Fails: Lessons in Cultural Sensitivity </p><p>40:22 - Rapid Fire Round 2: Billboards, Icons, &amp; Procreate </p><p>45:11 - The One Behavior Change for the Highest ROI </p><p>47:20 - TGV Trivia: The Surprising History of Cartoons</p><p><br></p><p>Guest LI profile link:</p><p><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirelisarothstein/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirelisarothstein/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Connect with the host:</p><p><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/naveensamala/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.linkedin.com/in/naveensamala/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Also, Tune into our English, Hindi, Gujarati &amp; Kannada podcasts here:</p><p>YouTube:</p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/c/THEGUIDINGVOICE\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/c/THEGUIDINGVOICE</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/c/TGVGujarati\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/c/TGVGujarati</a></p><p><a href=\"http://www.youtube.com/@tgvhindi\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.youtube.com/@tgvhindi</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/c/TGVKannada\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://www.youtube.com/c/TGVKannada</a></p><p><br></p><p>Grab a copy of Naveen Samala’s latest book, “69 Naked Truths”</p><p>Amazon:  <a href=\"https://tinyurl.com/69NTAMZN\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://tinyurl.com/69NTAMZN</a></p><p>Flipkart: <a href=\"https://tinyurl.com/69NTFPKT\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://tinyurl.com/69NTFPKT</a></p><p><br></p><p>TGV Inspiring Lives Volume 2 is on Amazon</p><p><br></p><p>Volume 2:</p><p>Notion Press: <a href=\"http://surl.li/tmkry\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://surl.li/tmkry</a></p><p>Use the Coupon code:  NAVEEN20 on notionpress.com to avail a 20% discount</p><p><br></p><p>Kindle Edition:</p><p><a href=\"http://surl.li/tmmmn\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://surl.li/tmmmn</a></p><p>AMZ IN: <a href=\"http://surl.li/tmmnb\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://surl.li/tmmnb</a></p><p>AMZ UK: <a href=\"http://surl.li/tmmnl\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">http://surl.li/tmmnl</a></p><p><br></p><p>FOLLOW ON X:</p><p>@guidingvoice</p><p>@naveensamala</p>","author_name":"Naveen Samala & Friends"}