{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/627e954c-aa68-4f1a-85d5-5682fdc5d0d5/65fc3000cce20300160135be?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Diversity Is Great. DEI Isn't. Amna Khalid and Jeff Snyder","description":"<p>Diversity equity and inclusion: Sounds like a good thing in an incredibly diverse country such as ours, especially when teaching young people at American colleges and universities.</p><p><br></p><p>But the DEI industry - or DEI Inc.&nbsp;—&nbsp;has arguably gone off the rails. There’s a big difference between the intentions behind a lot of diversity training and the results. We learn about the crucial difference between training and education, and hear the case against the&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/04/desantis-woke-law-court-00144801\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Stop WOKE Act</a>&nbsp;in Florida.</p><p><br></p><p>History professors&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.carleton.edu/directory/amkhalid/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Amna Khalid</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.carleton.edu/directory/jsnyder/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jeff Snyder</a>&nbsp;share their deep concerns about a growing industry. There is no reliable evidence that&nbsp;<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">diversity, equity&nbsp;and inclusion</a>&nbsp;training sessions at colleges, non-profits, and large corporations actually&nbsp;work. In many places, DEI could be making things worse, imposing an ideological litmus test and encouraging cynicism and dishonesty at places of learning.</p><p><br></p><p>Amna specializes in modern South Asian history, the history&nbsp;of&nbsp;medicine and the global history&nbsp;of&nbsp;free expression. Growing up under a series&nbsp;of&nbsp;military dictatorships in Pakistan, she has a strong interest in issues relating to free speech.</p><p><br></p><p>Jeff is also a Professor at Carleton: A historian&nbsp;of&nbsp;education, who studies questions of race, national identity and the purpose&nbsp;of&nbsp;public&nbsp;education in a diverse, democratic society. He’s the author&nbsp;of&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ugapress.org/book/9780820352831/making-black-history/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Making Black History</em></a><em>: The Color Line, Culture and Race in the Age&nbsp;of&nbsp;Jim Crow</em>.<strong>&nbsp;&nbsp;</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Jeff and Amna released&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDVnOdKGJhk\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">this YouTube video</a>&nbsp;about DEI. They&nbsp;speak regularly together about academic freedom, free speech and campus politics at colleges and universities.&nbsp;They also write frequently on these issues for newspapers and magazines, including&nbsp;<em>The Chronicle&nbsp;of&nbsp;Higher Education, The New Republic</em>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<em>The</em>&nbsp;<em>Washington Post</em>.&nbsp;Amna&nbsp;hosts a podcast and blog called&nbsp;<a href=\"https://banished.substack.com/p/diversity-statements-are-not-the?utm_campaign=email-post&amp;r=2x5cq&amp;utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">“Banished,”&nbsp;</a>which explores censorship controversies in the past and present.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><u>Recommendation</u>: Richard has been watching \"<a href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nada_(TV_series)\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Nada</a>\" on Hulu, a gentle and funny TV series from Argentina about a food critic in Buenos Aires and his observations on life and eating.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"DaviesContent"}