{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/627e954c-aa68-4f1a-85d5-5682fdc5d0d5/39f41b20-dfba-485c-ac72-224b50b0cdad?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"#35 Our Flawed Fight Against ISIS: Maajid Nawaz: How Do We Fix It?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6100770b31fd81f125b34d81/610077419a9767001477dca6.jpg?height=200","description":"<p>Before The U.S. and other nations can be successful against\nIslamic State (ISIS) and other global jihadists, we must understand\nthe difference between Islam and Islamism. That's the argument from\nour guest on this week's episode, Maajid Nawaz.</p>\n<p>\"It happens to be that today we are dealing with an insurgency\nthat's rising and growing within my own Muslim community,\" he says.\nIt doesn't help to deny it.\"</p>\n<p>A Sunni Muslim and a former Islamist fundamentalist, who is\nfounding chairman of the London-based counter-terrorism foundation,\nQuilliam, Maajid makes a powerful argument for freedom, tolerance\nand respect.</p>\n<p>He says that President Obama and many other liberal-minded\npoliticians and journalists have been reluctant to call Islamist\nideology by its proper name. \"Here's where people become paralyzed\nby political correctness,\" he argues. \"We are unable to say\n'Islamist extremism' as distinct from Islam the religion.\"</p>\n<p>\"I call this the Voldemort affect,\" citing the villain in the\nHarry Potter books and movies. Maajid compares the refusal to speak\nout against Islamists to those in the novels who were so petrified\nby Lord Voldemort's evil that they simply called him \"he who must\nnot be named.\"</p>\n<p>\"We're not talking about Islam the faith we're talking about\npoliticalization of the faith.\"</p>\n<p>Maajid Nawaz is author of the book “Radical: My Journey Out of\nIslamist Extremism.”</p>","author_name":"DaviesContent"}