In 2023 John Butters and Carl Sjostrom recorded their conversation on family business, executive compensation and long-term incentive plans, which can be found on YouTube https://youtu.be/2slamMWzSgE and this is the first of four parts of the audio version for those who prefer more bite-sized and podcast media. Big thank-you to Oliver Nelken for having recorded the original version, copyright John Butters and reproduced with permission.
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