{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/6263382ab9e5570014c826dc/67df449eec9837e25ee1d88c?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"S4E11: It's Magic?","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/6263382ab9e5570014c826dc/1742683434162-0a65bf4c-d359-4f3d-bdd0-0546c8023c2c.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>THE BLURB: MAGICIAN WES ISELI talks about the evolution of his craft - how integrating his (now) wife NATALIE ISELI into the act kicked it to new heights. How one MAGIC TRICK beat master illusionists PENN &amp; TELLER. How does one even become a magician? More than anything else, creating illusions is a craft. And, as for happiness? Wes has that trick covered, too!</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><u>SHOW NOTES:</u></p><p><br></p><p>I met Wes Iseli via podcasting connections, but we have another connection, too. We’ve both worked with Penn &amp; Teller. Teller co-wrote a superb episode of Tales From The Crypt with recent guest Colman DeKay called Staired In Horror.</p><p><br></p><p>Subsequent to that I developed a show at HBO with Penn And Teller that died in development – as most projects do.</p><p><br></p><p>Wes Iseli introduced himself to P&amp;T via their show Fool Us where magicians are invited to confound these two master illusionists with tricks they can’t figure out. </p><p><br></p><p>Wes did that. Fooled Penn &amp; Teller. And not only did Wes get the prize money promised, P&amp;T paid Wes directly for the knowledge of how he’d fooled them.</p><p>As Wes will tell you, there’s no “magic” involved. There’s a ton of craft though. Which is why we’re talking about it here. </p><p><br></p><p>Now, Wes insists – as you’ll hear – that there’s nothing supernatural about magic. In fact, he hates the idea of supernatural magic. But there’s something about magic and creating the illusions of it that can spark a little – let’s call it “transcendent” – kind of magic.</p><p><br></p><p>There’s a ton of love in this story. Wes AND his wife NATHALIE sat and talked to me. </p><p><br></p><p>What Wes and Nathalie have created – along with their three kids – is a kind of great magic trick. </p><p><br></p><p>And that’s with the caveat that there’s no magic. There’s craft. Hard work and lots of repetition. But, I think you’ll find that the effect – the story itself - is magical.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><u>SOCIAL MEDIA:</u></p><p><br></p><p>INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/hownottomakeamoviepodcast/</p><p><br></p><p>PATREON: patreon.com/TheHowNOTToMakeAMoviePodcastFanPage</p><p><br></p>","author_name":"A L Katz"}