{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62597e5a4fd40b00135d1360/6aa07f8699455f9a93c04fdf?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Stop Avoiding The Hard ","description":"<h1>Conversations in the Dark, Episode 4: Stop Avoiding the Hard Stuff</h1><p>Erica Vander Sande on her 14th anniversary, the anxiety of good seasons, grief that shows up sideways, and learning to talk yourself off the ledge.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>Episode Summary</h2><p>Erica is coming off a great weekend. She and her husband just celebrated their 14th wedding anniversary, and their anniversary dinner turned into a walk down memory lane through every season of their marriage. Somewhere in that conversation, Erica caught herself saying something she didn't expect: she wanted to avoid any more hard seasons.</p><p>That comment sat with her for two days, and this episode is her working through it out loud. She talks about why we instinctively try to dodge hard things, why that instinct is actually a waste of energy, and what it looks like to prepare for hard seasons without living in fear of them.</p><p>From there, the conversation goes deep into anxiety that shows up even when life is going well, grief that resurfaces in unexpected moments, and a practice Erica uses to talk herself through spirals: picturing every past version of herself sitting around a conference table, reminding her what she has already survived.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>What We Cover</h2><ul><li><strong>A 14th anniversary and an honest slip.</strong> Erica shares what came up during her anniversary dinner and why she caught herself trying to avoid future hardship.</li><li><strong>Why avoiding hard things doesn't work.</strong> Erica explains the difference between planning for hard seasons and trying to skip them altogether, and why most of the best things in her life came out of the hardest ones.</li><li><strong>Anxiety that shows up when things are good.</strong> Erica opens up about the clenched fist feeling that creeps in even during genuinely good seasons, and why she can't always turn it off.</li><li><strong>The conference table exercise.</strong> A real look at how Erica talks to past versions of herself, at 20, 26, 30, and 32 years old, to remind her present self what she is actually capable of handling.</li><li><strong>Grief that shows up sideways.</strong> Erica connects her frustration with after school carpool chaos to a deeper grief over losing her mom, and how anger is often standing in for a different feeling entirely.</li><li><strong>The mama bear mentality.</strong> Why showing up for yourself first, the way you would for your own kids, changes how you handle stress, anger, and anxiety.</li><li><strong>When to outsource instead of white knuckle it.</strong> Erica talks about calling a friend, a family member, or a therapist when you can't think your way out of something on your own.</li></ul><h2>Memorable Moment</h2><p>Erica compares holding onto anxiety during good seasons to her daughter learning to swim, gripping the side of the pool out of habit even though she already knows how to let go and swim on her own.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>Connect with Erica</h2><ul><li>Business inquiries: <a href=\"https://theminacompany.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Mina Company</a></li><li>Personal connection and coaching: <a href=\"https://ericavandersande.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Erica Vander Sande</a></li></ul><h2>Show Notes Keywords</h2><p>Conversations in the Dark podcast, Erica Vander Sande, anxiety and grief podcast, avoiding hard conversations, marriage and business owners, motherhood and anxiety, grief after losing a parent, entrepreneur mental health, mama bear mentality, meditation and mindset podcast</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h2>Subscribe and Review</h2><p>If this episode hit home, leave a review or share it with someone who needs a reminder that they have already survived their hardest days. New episodes of Conversations in the Dark are on the way. Subscribe so you don't miss what's next.</p>","author_name":"Erica Vander Sande"}