{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62538867ad55de001281af36/6addc7c8025813dc0cfd28f6?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"MARGARET WHEATLEY: How to keep going as the world becomes more troubled","description":"<p>Margaret (Meg) Wheatley (collapse theorist, leadership elder), after working in systems change for more than 50 years, wants to warn us that our current moment demands that we learn how to persevere. Many of us have been “struggling” to “fix” what’s going on in the world and we’re angry, sad, exhausted and despondent with all our efforting.</p><p><br></p><p>In this follow-up conversation to the very confronting one we recorded three years ago (in which she says when collapse will occur, and how), Meg talks us through a unique thesis for staying on the “warrior of the human spirit” path…and deriving joy and energy from it. We talk about what to do with our anger, how to handle abject stupidity from others, and techniques for staying vigilant (we go through my terrible morning routine). It’s an episode to pass around all your activist, empathetic, engaged - or otherwise just deeply human - friends.</p><p><br></p><p>Meg has worked with global leaders (in the US Army, business, disaster zones, etc.) for five decades, guiding them to see the world through a systems and spiritual lens. She’s published more than a dozen books on her wisdoms, including her 2010 book of consolations <em>Perseverance: A Companion for the Journey</em>, which has just been re-released.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>SHOW NOTES</strong></p><ul><li>Get your copy of <a href=\"https://margaretwheatley.com/books/perseverance/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Perseverance: A Companion for the Journey by Margaret J. Wheatley </a></li><li>Here&#39;s the first Wild chat with Meg: <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/margaret-wheatley-an-episode-on-civilization/id1548626341?i=1000634046087\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">An episode on civilization collapse (warning: truly confronting)</a></li><li>Meg and I also recorded a second and even more challenging episode that can be found <a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/p/meg-wheatley-on-civilisational-collapse?utm_source=publication-search\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">over at my Substack.</a> In this extra episode, we cover how long we&#39;ve got left, and how collapse will play out.</li><li>Other Wild conversations with awesome elders: <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/stephen-jenkinson-how-to-die-well/id1548626341?i=1000606356377\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Stephen Jenkinson</a>, <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/sister-helen-prejean-the-radical-nun-who-wrote-dead/id1548626341?i=1000551177896\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sister Helen Prejean</a>, <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/john-seed-is-deep-ecology-the-answer/id1548626341?i=1000773925839\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">John Seed</a> and <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/margaret-atwood-the-doyenne-of-dystopia-turns/id1548626341?i=1000603184023\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Margaret Atwood</a></li><li>Learn more about Meg and her work <a href=\"https://margaretwheatley.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</li></ul><p><br></p><p>--</p><p><br></p><p>Watch on <a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@SarahWilson_Wild\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube</a> or <a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Substack</a></p><p>If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my &quot;<a href=\"http://www.sarahwilson.com/about\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">about</a>&quot; page</p><p>For more such conversations, subscribe to my<a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Substack newsletter</a>, it’s where I interact the most!</p><p>Let’s connect on<a href=\"http://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Instagram</a></p>","author_name":"Sarah Wilson"}