{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62538867ad55de001281af36/67047175c88f09c3e01ae114?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"CHRISTIANA FIGUERES: On “stubborn optimism” ","description":"<p>Christiana Figueres (the woman behind the Paris Agreement) is possibly the best-known official in the global climate change movement. The former Costa Rican diplomat and Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (2010-2016), managed to bring together 195 nations to sign the historical 2015 agreement that set the “1.5C” target/warning. She wrote The Future We Choose, cohosts the Outrage + Optimism podcast, has a moth, a wasp and an orchid named after her, and has won countless international awards for her work.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we challenge each other on whether hope and optimism are still useful given we’ve passed the 1.5C threshold in February, whether the Paris Agreement is still viable almost 10 years on and the viability of the green energy transition. We don’t agree on a number of points, but we come together on what keeps us in the “fight” …love. Listen to the end with this one.</p><p><br></p><p>SHOW NOTES</p><p><br></p><p>The work of rare earth minerals expert <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/olivia-lazard-the-big-fat-renewable-energy-blindspot/id1548626341?i=1000657081033\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Olivia Lazard</a> and energy futurist <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/nate-hagens-on-the-great-simplification/id1548626341?i=1000630076342\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Nate Hagens</a> supports the energy points I make in this episode.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>This<a href=\"https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261921011673\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;international team</a>&nbsp;of researchers and this<a href=\"https://www.wiley.com/en-us/How+Everything+Can+Collapse%3A+A+Manual+for+our+Times-p-9781509541393\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;team</a>&nbsp;working out of France show fossil fuels will become net-energy negative in the future. </p><p><br></p><p>We are spending more energy to get less energy than before—our net energy is&nbsp;<a href=\"https://jpt.spe.org/plummeting-energy-return-on-investment-of-oil-and-the-impact-on-global-energy-landscape\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;“plummeting”</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>The world’s consumption of fossil fuels climbed to a record high last year according to&nbsp;the<a href=\"https://globalcarbonbudget.org/faqs/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;University of Exeter's Global Carbon Project</a>&nbsp;and<a href=\"https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/152519/emissions-from-fossil-fuels-continue-to-rise\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;NASA</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>A Finnish Geological Survey<a href=\"https://tupa.gtk.fi/raportti/arkisto/16_2021.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;finds</a>&nbsp;that “global reserves are not large enough to supply enough metals to build the renewable non-fossil fuels industrial system”.</p><p><br></p><p>According to a study on societal<a href=\"https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5ba7a97cb91449215ec18448/t/5ba917c01905f4bb3465456e/1537808324718/Tipping_Point.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;tipping points</a>, a peak and fall in global oil production would bring down the entire financial and trade system like a house of cards.</p><p><br></p><p>This<a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/p/civilisational-collapseas-a-dr-suess\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;chapter</a>&nbsp;of my book outlines the argument in detail.</p><p><br></p><p>And here are the first&nbsp;<a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/p/hope-and-relief\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">two chapters</a>&nbsp;of my book, that outline my position on hope v truth.&nbsp;</p>","author_name":"Sarah Wilson"}