{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62538867ad55de001281af36/6699a4d61c16da6be13961c0?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"COLLAPSE SERIES: Jonathon Rowson - Welcome to the “metacrisis”. Now what?","description":"<p>Hello, dear wild friends! I'm taking a short break, but I wanted to share some of my previous interviews with guests who delve into themes of collapse, the meta-crisis, and the decline of the systems we've always known to grow—like GDP, technology, population, and prosperity.</p><p><br></p><p>Many of you have joined my book serialization project on <a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Substack</a>, where we're navigating the collapse awareness journey together. These interviews provide valuable context for our journey. You can <a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">join us here</a> if you're not already part of the project. I release one chapter of my book at a time, and we discuss its contents in the comments, tackling this big, beautiful, hard thing as a community, step by step. In the meantime, enjoy this wild conversation with Jonathon Rowson.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>--</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Jonathan Rowson (chess Grandmaster, metamodernist philosopher) is one of Britain’s biggest minds and I have invited him onto Wild to talk, well, what’s been dubbed the “meta-crisis” – the fundamental “meaning” crisis at the heart of “all the things” going on in the world today.</p><p><br></p><p>Jonathan is a theoretical psychologist with degrees from Oxford and Harvard and a Ph.D on what it means to become wiser. He has worked on “complex collective action” problem solving, was Director of the Social Brain Centre at the Royal Society of Arts and has run events with David Attenborough and Jordan Peterson (not on the same stage!). Jonathan now runs Perspectiva, a research institute that seeks to understand the relationship between systems, souls, and society. This is a big chat, but I think you’ll find this new and wild idea a helpful navigational tool for, well, “all the things”.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>SHOW NOTES</strong></p><p>As I flag, my UK friends can preorder This One Wild and Precious Life&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.eye-books.com/books/this-one-wild-and-precious-life\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</p><p>Follow the Perspectiva community and their various events&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.jonathanrowson.me/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</p><p>Jonathan is also on&nbsp;<a href=\"https://jonathanrowson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Substack</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Rowson\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter</a>.</p><p>His latest book&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Moves-That-Matter-Chess-Grandmaster/dp/1635573327\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Moves that Matter: A Chess Grandmaster on the Game of Life</em></a>&nbsp;is out now.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>--</strong></p><p><br></p><p>If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my \"<a href=\"http://www.sarahwilson.com/about\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">about</a>\" page</p><p>For more such conversations subscribe to my<a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Substack newsletter</a>, it’s where I interact the most!</p><p>Get your copy of my book,<a href=\"https://amzn.to/3vs3tf2\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> This One Wild and Precious Life</a></p><p>Let’s connect on<a href=\"http://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Instagram</a> and <a href=\"https://click.weare8.com/zMp3/1qib7lyt\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">WeAre8</a></p>","author_name":"Sarah Wilson"}