{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62538867ad55de001281af36/667a655b83e70f59f784bac5?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"JENNY ODELL: How to *not* save time (and *creatively* reject the productive, growth imperative!)","description":"<p>Jenny Odell (NYT bestseller, artist) wrote a bestselling book five years ago that Barack Obama declared one of his “books of the year”. “<a href=\"https://amzn.to/3RID9cT\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">How to Do Nothing</a>” stuck two fingers up to the productivity industry. Jenny followed it up with the recently published, “<a href=\"https://amzn.to/3xzl621\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond The Clock</a>” that argues the original problem is our framing of time as a bunch of units we own, spend, must be efficient with etc. </p><p><br></p><p>In this chat, Jenny explains that how we relate to time is our choice and she – fascinatingly – shows how radically rejecting our current take on time (and the productivity bro’ efficiency hacks) can help us navigate climate dread, the capitalist trap and our collective sense of disconnect.</p><p><br></p><p>SHOW NOTES</p><p><br></p><p>Jenny's book, <a href=\"https://amzn.to/3zjfwBy\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Saving Time: Discovering a Life Beyond the Clock</a> is available now</p><p>Connect with Jenny on <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jennitaur/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a> and keep up to date via <a href=\"https://www.jennyodell.com/index.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">her website</a></p><p>--</p><p><br></p><p>If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my \"<a href=\"http://www.sarahwilson.com/about\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">about</a>\" page</p><p>For more such conversations subscribe to my<a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Substack newsletter</a>, it’s where I interact the most!</p><p>Get your copy of my book,<a href=\"https://amzn.to/3vs3tf2\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> This One Wild and Precious Life</a></p><p>Let’s connect on<a href=\"http://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Instagram</a> and <a href=\"https://click.weare8.com/zMp3/1qib7lyt\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">WeAre8</a></p>","author_name":"Sarah Wilson"}