{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/62538867ad55de001281af36/64e123c44189310011d51777?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"JONATHAN ROWSON: Welcome to the “metacrisis”. Now what?","description":"<p>Jonathan Rowson (chess Grandmaster, metamodernist philosopher) is one of Britain’s biggest minds and I have invited him onto Wild to talk, well, what’s been dubbed the “meta-crisis” – the fundamental “meaning” crisis at the heart of “all the things” going on in the world today.</p><p><br></p><p>Jonathan is a theoretical psychologist with degrees from Oxford and Harvard and a Ph.D on what it means to become wiser. He has worked on “complex collective action” problem solving, was Director of the Social Brain Centre at the Royal Society of Arts and has run events with David Attenborough and Jordan Peterson (not on the same stage!). Jonathan now runs Perspectiva, a research institute that seeks to understand the relationship between systems, souls, and society.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a big chat, but I think you’ll find this new and wild idea a helpful navigational tool for, well, “all the things”.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>SHOW NOTES</strong></p><p>As I flag, my UK friends can preorder This One Wild and Precious Life <a href=\"https://www.eye-books.com/books/this-one-wild-and-precious-life\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</p><p>Follow the Perspectiva community and their various events <a href=\"https://www.jonathanrowson.me/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>.</p><p>Jonathan is also on&nbsp;<a href=\"https://jonathanrowson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Substack</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Rowson\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Twitter</a>.</p><p>His latest book <a href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Moves-That-Matter-Chess-Grandmaster/dp/1635573327\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Moves that Matter: A Chess Grandmaster on the Game of Life</em></a> is out now.</p><p><br></p><p>I mention a bunch of previous wild episodes that you might like to listen to:</p><p>Sensemaking with <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/david-fuller-sensemaking-101/id1548626341?i=1000570491157\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">David Fuller,</a> Indigenous Knowledge Systems with <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/ro/podcast/tyson-yunkaporta-indigenous-knowledge-can-save-the-world/id1548626341?i=1000616901062\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tyson Yankaporta</a> and the <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/ee/podcast/dr-jill-bolte-taylor-the-neuroscientist-shows-sarah/id1548626341?i=1000536178783\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor</a> episode.</p><p><br></p><p>If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my \"<a href=\"http://www.sarahwilson.com/about\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">about</a>\" page</p><p>For more such conversations subscribe to my<a href=\"https://sarahwilson.substack.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Substack newsletter</a>, it’s where I interact the most!</p><p>Get your copy of my book,<a href=\"https://amzn.to/3vs3tf2\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> This One Wild and Precious Life</a></p><p>Let’s connect on<a href=\"http://www.instagram.com/_sarahwilson_\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Instagram</a></p>","author_name":"Sarah Wilson"}