{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/623868eda3a78c0012e30622/695d258302e19e82083c2123?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"S5 Ep1: What KitKat Gets Right About Attention, Breaks & Consistency with Wael Jabi","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/623868eda3a78c0012e30622/1767722084005-69c9096d-56fb-449d-968a-5dae81df2df6.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Kit Kats Global Head of Marketing Shares what it really takes to build and protect an iconic global brand?</p><p><br></p><p>In this season opener for Season 5 of <em>That’s What I Call Marketing</em>, Conor Byrne is joined by <strong>Wael Jabi</strong>, KitKats Global Head of Marketing at Nestlé, for a deep conversation about brand judgement, consistency, partnerships, and the decisions that quietly shape long-term growth.</p><p><br></p><p>Wael’s career spans Leo Burnett, Procter &amp; Gamble, and Nestlé, and the discussion moves well beyond surface-level case studies. Together, they explore what KitKat teaches us about resisting reinvention, diagnosing the <em>right</em> marketing problems under pressure, and how major cultural platforms like Formula 1 can be used to express brand meaning rather than dilute it.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a practical, reflective conversation for CMOs, brand leaders, and senior marketers who care about building brands that last not just chasing short-term performance.</p><p><strong>Topics covered include:</strong></p><ul><li>Why most brands don’t need reinvention they need restraint</li><li>The marketing failure that taught Wael when price becomes the wrong answer</li><li>What KitKat gets right about consistency and memory structures</li><li>How to think about F1 and major sponsorships without losing brand meaning</li><li>Brand vs performance decisions under pressure</li><li>Why judgement matters more than tactics at senior levels</li></ul><p><br></p><p>01:55 – Wael’s career path: agency to P&amp;G</p><p>05:50 – Why advertising isn’t the most important thing</p><p>09:40 – A pricing decision that went wrong</p><p>14:20 – Diagnosing the wrong marketing problem</p><p>18:40 – KitKat and brand consistency</p><p>23:15 – “Breaks are broken” insight</p><p>26:50 – Making iconic work at global scale</p><p>30:20 – Formula 1 and partnerships</p><p>34:50 – Showing up in your world vs theirs</p><p>38:20 – Judgement under pressure</p><p>41:00 – What’s next for KitKat</p><p><br></p><p>Thanks to Tracksuit for their partnership with this episode, check out h<a href=\"about:blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">ttps://www.gotracksuit.com </a> to find out more about the always on brand tracking platform</p>","author_name":"Conor Byrne"}