{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/61e878a1419a9b0013b27134/69bb0f40c4b9c3b6f4f908ed?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Why Data Governance Is the Key to AI Biosecurity, with Jassi Pannu and Doni Bloomfield","description":"<p><strong>Why Data Governance Is the Key to AI Biosecurity, with Jassi Pannu and Doni Bloomfield</strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Alan Rozenshtein, research director at Lawfare, spoke with&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.pannulab.org/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jassi Pannu</a>, assistant professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.fordham.edu/school-of-law/faculty/directory/full-time/doni-bloomfield/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Doni Bloomfield</a>, associate professor of law at Fordham Law School, about their proposed framework for governing biological data to reduce AI-enabled biosecurity risks.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>The conversation covered the origins of the proposal in the 50th anniversary of the 1975 Asilomar conference on recombinant DNA; the distinction between general-purpose AI models and biology-specific foundation models like genomic language models; the biosecurity threats posed by AI, including uplift of novice actors and raising the ceiling of expert capabilities; the proposed biosecurity data levels (BDL 0-4) framework and how it draws on precedents from biosafety levels and genetic privacy regulation; the challenge of capabilities-based rather than pathogen-based data classification; the institutional and regulatory mechanisms for enforcement, including the role of NIH grant conditions and a proposed mandatory federal regime; international collaboration and the importance of U.S. leadership given that most high-tier data is generated domestically; the relationship between the proposal and open-source biological AI development; and the offense-defense imbalance in biosecurity and the case for mandatory gene synthesis screening.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aeb2689\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jassi Pannu and Doni Bloomfield et al., \"Biological data governance in an age of AI,\"&nbsp;<em>Science</em>&nbsp;(2026)</a></li><li><a href=\"https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1012975\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jassi Pannu, Doni Bloomfield, et al., \"Dual-use capabilities of concern of biological AI models,\" PLOS Computational Biology (2025)</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/the-adolescence-of-technology\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dario Amodei, \"The Adolescence of Technology\" (2026)</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/11/launching-the-genesis-mission/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Genesis Mission Executive Order (November 2025)</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"Lawfare & University of Texas Law School"}