Martin and Billy are back in the studio talking about the World Cup, Berlin, Download Festival, ticket prices, festival lineups and the strange question of where different artists belong.
The conversation moves from Linkin Park headlining Download with a female lead singer into a wider discussion about genre, audience expectations and whether artists always know who their music is really for.
They also talk about Olivia Rodrigo’s new album, how pop and rock overlap, why some music can be good without being personally appealing, and whether artists make music for a specific audience or simply discover who responds to it, and look at how important audience fit is for bands, from choosing the right venues to understanding where the people most likely to care about your music are actually gathered.
Topics include:
• Berlin, Berghain and music culture
• Download Festival and female-fronted bands
• Genre expectations in rock and metal
• Olivia Rodrigo and pop with guitars
• Liking music vs recognising that it is good
• Artists, audience and identity
• Choosing the right venues and festivals
• Why the right crowd matters more than the biggest crowd
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