{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/618975a0e897b500196a08f6/621b6ed12836410012a02d0d?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Prestigious Pints Episode 5 - Mary & Tom Poppendieck","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/618975a0e897b500196a08f6/1637860839158-40f8750daadfb604b16e404ecc0bb813.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>In the fifth episode of our Prestigious Pints series, Geoff Watts and Paul Goddard get together (virtually in lockdown) with a pair of agile inspirations Mary &amp; Tom Poppendieck.&nbsp;</p><p>They chat about how the COVID pandemic has forced companies to pivot into new and innovative ideas based on purpose and then responding to feedback. &nbsp;The conversation also touched on quality and craftsmanship, and how the term \"software engineer\" isn't really the same as an \"engineer\" in many other industries. &nbsp;</p><p>As ever, Mary &amp; Tom have a passion for lean and it's great to also hear what Mary thinks is the biggest understanding of Lean - even now. &nbsp;</p><p>We hope you enjoy!!</p>","author_name":"Geoff Watts & Paul Goddard"}