{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/61543e348f80b9001378a427/6364e426825b4100120ec688?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"104. Campaign podcast: John Hegarty on creativity in recession, plus Publicis bonuses","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61543e348f80b9001378a427/1636643292075-e0935276a47030c52135082fc022e224.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Sir John Hegarty, the former creative chief and co-founder of BBH, sat down with<em> Campaign</em> talk about his new eight-week course, The Business of Creativity, and the power of great creative thinking to drive innovation, particularly in a recession.</p><p><br></p><p>In his interview with Gideon Spanier, UK editor-in-chief, and Gurjit Degun, the creativity and culture editor, Hegarty also discuss the biggest recent news stories, including <a href=\"https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/publicis-spends-%E2%82%AC50m-exceptional-bonus-45000-staff-cope-cost-living/1802362\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Publicis Groupe's exceptional staff bonuses to cope with the cost of living,</a> and where clients can go wrong on agency pitches.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus we also chat about why the ad industry has put promotion ahead of persuasion and his \"triangle\" test for great work that needs to cover three key points: memorable, motivating and truthful.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Further reading:</strong></p><p><a href=\"https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/john-hegarty-future-talent-fluidity/1737084\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>John Hegarty: the future of talent is about fluidity</strong></a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/bbh-jack-nicholson-%E2%80%93-maverick-establishment/1791183\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>'BBH is like Jack Nicholson – maverick but establishment</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><strong><span class=\"ql-cursor\">﻿</span>For more information on The Business of Creativity course, go to </strong><a href=\"https://www.businessofcreativity.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>businessofcreativity.com.</strong></a></p><p><br></p>","author_name":"Campaign"}