{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/613f6abff5e01d00136472e4/64b8a7a15648a8001104af63?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Ep. 16: James Brown & Mark Hodkinson (Attack On Bzag/Untermensch","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/613f6abff5e01d00136472e4/1689856504107-1798d4f0bebc785cd624c65db668e3f7.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>(Sign up at <a href=\"tonyfletcher.substack.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">tonyfletcher.substack.com</a> to receive this podcast interview in unedited form.)</p><p><br></p><p><strong>James Brown </strong>and <strong>Mark Hodkinson</strong> both hail from the Pennine District in Northern England. Both ran fanzines in the 1980s (<strong><em>Attack on Bzag</em></strong> and <strong><em>Untermensch</em></strong>). Both stayed in publishing. Both now have successful memoirs out about their lives in the world of words.</p><p><br></p><p>Beyond that, their paths have been different. James left Leeds for London, and after 10 successful issues of his fanzine, joined the <em>NME</em>. He then founded <strong><em>Loaded</em></strong>, which was selling 350,000 copies by the time he went to edit GQ after 36 issues. He's written about this - plus his addictions to alcohol and drugs and his subsequent recovery - in his memoir <strong><em>Animal House</em></strong>. Mark stayed in Rochdale, and started a small imprint called Pomona, which published books by people such as Bill Nelson, Barry Hines and Bob Stanley; in his memoir <strong><em>No One Round Here Reads Tolstoy</em></strong>, he explains how a boy who grew up in a house with one book ended up with 3500. Both memoirs are now out in paperback.</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation with host <strong>Tony Fletcher</strong>, the three of them discuss:</p><ul><li>Leaving home vs. staying put</li><li>Why Untermensch was a revolt against Rochdale</li><li>The joys of selling fanzines at gigs - or not.</li><li>1980s fanzine culture with references to <em>The End, Cool Notes, Idiot Stregth, Furious Apache, Raygun, New Youth, Kvatch</em></li><li>How James could even sell a fanzine to a working policeman</li><li>The night that James, along with former podcast guest Richard Edwards, raided Tony's Filofax for famous people's numbers</li><li>How Loaded was James' ultimate fanzine</li><li>Why Pomona was a critical success but rarely a commercial one</li><li>How <em>Attack on Bzag </em>got it wrong about The Smiths</li></ul><p><br></p><p>James Brown is on <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/jamesjamesbrown/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Instagram</a> and <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/Jamesbrown99\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook</a>.</p><p>Mark Hodkinson is on <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/mark.hodkinson.33\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Facebook</a>. The Pomona Books catalogue <a href=\"https://www.pomonauk.com/books/catalogue.php\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here </a></p><p><br></p><p>Also discussed in this episode:</p><p>'The Politics of Fanzines' episode with Richard Edwards can be found <a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/the-jamming-fanzine-podcast/episodes\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a></p><p>'One Step Beyond Ep. 27' with Mike Peters of Love, Hope, Strength is <a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/onestepbeyond/episodes/ep-27-love-hope-strength-with-mike-peters\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a>:</p><p>'Tacky Tiger,' Sparks zine on a Gestertner, is<a href=\"https://threebluebeans.bigcartel.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>The Dear Boys single 'Blink Of An I' can be viewed, streamed, or purchased on Bandcamp from <a href=\"https://linktr.ee/thedearboys.\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://linktr.ee/thedearboys.</a></p><p>The Best Of Jamming! can be found <a href=\"https://tonyfletcher.net/book/the-best-of-jamming/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">here</a></p><p><br></p><p>For weekly articles by Tony Fletcher, news of upcoming writings, books, events, podcasts, and for exclusive access to archived interviews, sign up for his newsletter at <a href=\"tonyfletcher.substack.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">tonyfletcher.substack.com</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Theme music by Noel Fletcher. Logo by Greg Morton.</p>","author_name":"Tony Fletcher"}