{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/61034f113fc854001a0282f0/6904e23ccce74301994e5e79?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Attention and the Possibility of Persuasion","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/61034f113fc854001a0282f0/1761927731076-ca830cde-e635-4b03-81ed-49a27036023f.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Jerusalem Demsas is one of Cardiff’s favorite econ and housing journalists, a previous New Bazaar guest, and now the founder and editor of The Argument, a new magazine dedicated to making “a positive, combative case for liberalism through sharp, well-argued opinion pieces, original reporting, and multimedia content that confronts the illiberal drift in our politics.”&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Jerusalem and Cardiff discuss:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Her meaning of liberalism</li><li>How (if?) persuasion works&nbsp;</li><li>The politics of immigration and why it matters for the economy&nbsp;</li><li>Drawing lines vs reaching across them</li><li>If Twitter really is “acid on community”&nbsp;</li><li>How to societally deal with short-form video addiction…</li><li>… and how Jerusalem broke her own TikTok problem</li><li>Why asking if something is cringe is itself the most cringe&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Finally, Jerusalem makes Cardiff look and feel super old when his reference to Reality Bites flies right by her. They close by reflecting on a hopeful trend.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Related links:&nbsp;</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.theargumentmag.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Argument</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Housing-Crisis-Development-Democracy-Atlantic/dp/1638931968\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">On the Housing Crisis</a> (Jerusalem’s book of essays)</li><li>Ezra Klein’s <a href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/28/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-ta-nehisi-coates.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">podcast interview</a> with Ta-Nehisi Coates</li></ul>","author_name":"Economic Innovation Group"}