{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60baafd7d3cdd0001b29d9ee/630536fe8379b8001355b526?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Elliot Ackerman on America's End in Afghanistan","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60baafd7d3cdd0001b29d9ee/1622847780909-54de3e9fdcdad3cc84239cc4e459aab0.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>One year ago this month, the last American troops withdrew from Afghanistan, marking the end of a 20-year war. To reflect on those two decades, <em>Lawfare </em>managing editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Elliot Ackerman, author of the new book, “<a href=\"https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/709027/the-fifth-act-by-elliot-ackerman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Fifth Act: America's End in Afghanistan</a>.” They discussed Elliot's personal involvement in the struggle to get Afghan allies out of Kabul a year ago, as well as his time in Afghanistan, first as a Marine and then as a CIA officer. Drawing on firsthand experience, Elliot spoke about what it means to win or lose a war and some of the reasons why this war was a debacle for Americans and a tragedy for Afghans.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}