{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/6a836f13ff328abd84a6a9d2?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Lawfare Daily: Vinh Nguyen, Elham Tabassi, and Kat Duffy on How to Design a Better AI Regulator","description":"<p><em>Lawfare</em> Senior Editor Kate Klonick is joined by three guests to discuss their <a href=\"https://www.cfr.org/articles/the-u-s-is-about-to-design-an-ai-regulator-heres-how-to-get-it-right\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">recent article for the Council on Foreign Relations</a> on the FINRA-style AI regulator reportedly under White House review: Vinh Nguyen, former chief AI officer at the National Security Agency and now CFR’s Senior Fellow for Artificial Intelligence; Elham Tabassi, former chief AI advisor at NIST and now director of Brookings’ AI and Emerging Technology Initiative; and Kat Duffy, CFR’s Senior Fellow for Digital and Cyberspace Policy and director of LEAD AI.</p><p>The conversation follows recent news of <a href=\"https://demishassabis.substack.com/p/a-framework-for-frontier-ai-and-the-dawning-of-a-new-age\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Demis Hassabis’s July 14 framework</a> calling for a U.S.-led Frontier AI Standards Body and a <a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-17/us-considers-creating-finra-like-watchdog-to-vet-top-ai-models\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">subsequent Bloomberg report </a>that Treasury Secretary Bessent is involved in reviewing a version of the proposal. They discuss the problems but benefits with a FINRA-like model and what that means for public trust before the body even launches, especially for allies abroad who may be reluctant to treat an American, industry-funded body as an international standard-setter.</p><p>To receive ad-free podcasts, become a <em>Lawfare </em>Material Supporter at <a href=\"http://www.patreon.com/lawfare\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.patreon.com/lawfare</a>. You can also support <em>Lawfare </em>by making a one-time donation at <a href=\"https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}