{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/69973d107012ce5376a6ba2f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Scaling Laws: Claude's Constitution, with Amanda Askell","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/1771519076840-8ee227ec-d0f6-4acf-82e2-f6db005794b9.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Alan Rozenshtein, research director at <em>Lawfare</em>, and Kevin Frazier, senior editor at <em>Lawfare</em>, speak with Amanda Askell, head of personality alignment at Anthropic, about&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.anthropic.com/constitution\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Claude's Constitution</a>, a 20,000-word document that describes the values, character, and ethical framework of Anthropic's flagship AI model and plays a direct role in its training.</p><p>The conversation covers how the constitution is used during supervised learning and reinforcement learning to shape Claude's behavior; analogies to constitutional law, including fidelity to text, the potential for a body of \"case law,\" and the principal hierarchy of Anthropic, operators, and users; the decision to ground the constitution in virtue ethics and practical judgment rather than rigid rules; the document's treatment of Claude's potential moral patienthood and the question of AI personhood; whether the constitution's values are too Western and culturally specific; the tension between Anthropic's commercial incentives and its stated mission; and whether the constitutional approach can generalize to specialized domains like cybersecurity and military applications.</p><p>Find <em>Scaling Laws</em> on the <a href=\"https://www.lawfaremedia.org/podcasts-multimedia/podcast/scaling-laws\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Lawfare</em> website</a>, and <a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/arbiters-of-truth\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe</a> to never miss an episode.</p><p>To receive ad-free podcasts, become a&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>Material Supporter at&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.patreon.com/lawfare\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.patreon.com/lawfare</a>. You can also support&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>by making a one-time donation at&nbsp;<a href=\"https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}