{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/68b74647d6e2cdaa261374bf?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Scaling Laws: Contrasting and Conflicting Efforts to Regulate Big Tech: EU v. U.S.","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/1756841533328-694e30e8-d538-4678-8a3a-1d81625f0701.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Anu Bradford, Professor at Columbia Law School, and Kate Klonick, Senior Editor at <em>Lawfare</em> and Associate Professor at St. John's University School of Law, join Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at <em>Lawfare</em>, to assess the ongoing, contrasting, and, at times, conflicting regulatory approaches to Big Tech being pursued by the EU and U.S. The trio start with an assessment of the EU’s use of the Brussels Effect, coined by Anu, to shape AI development. Next, they explore the U.S.’s increasingly interventionist industrial policy with respect to key sectors, especially tech.</p><p><em>Read more:</em></p><ul><li>Anu’s op-ed in&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/18/opinion/trump-ai-europe.html?searchResultPosition=1\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The New York Times</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.nber.org/papers/w28381\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">\"The Impact of Regulation on Innovation,</a>\" by Philippe Aghion, Antonin Bergeaud, and John Van Reenen</li><li><a href=\"https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/97e481fd-2dc3-412d-be4c-f152a8232961_en?filename=The%20future%20of%20European%20competitiveness%20_%20A%20competitiveness%20strategy%20for%20Europe.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Draghi Report on the Future of European Competitiveness</a></li></ul><p>Find <em>Scaling Laws</em> on the <a href=\"https://www.lawfaremedia.org/podcasts-multimedia/podcast/scaling-laws\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Lawfare</em> website</a>, and <a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/arbiters-of-truth\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe</a> to never miss an episode.</p><p>To receive ad-free podcasts, become a&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>Material Supporter at&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.patreon.com/lawfare\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.patreon.com/lawfare</a>. You can also support&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>by making a one-time donation at&nbsp;<a href=\"https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}