{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/68a4d7dce2f63983a75ba4ef?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Scaling Laws: Export Controls: Janet Egan, Sam Winter-Levy, and Peter Harrell on the White House's Semiconductor Decision","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/1755633618500-d27bce48-89c9-46f4-8d65-baea817adfd7.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Alan Rozenshtein, Research Director at <em>Lawfare</em>, sits down with&nbsp;<a href=\"https://carnegieendowment.org/people/sam-winter-levy?lang=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sam Winter-Levy</a>, a Fellow in the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace;&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.cnas.org/people/janet-egan\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Janet Egan</a>, a Senior Fellow with the Technology and National Security Program at the Center for a New American Security; and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://carnegieendowment.org/people/peter-harrell?lang=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Harrell</a>, a Nonresident Fellow at Carnegie and a former Senior Director for International Economics at the White House National Security Council under President Joe Biden.</p><p>They discuss the Trump administration’s recent decision to allow U.S. companies Nvidia and AMD to export a range of advanced AI semiconductors to China in exchange for a 15% payment to the U.S. government. They talk about the history of the export control regime targeting China’s access to AI chips, the strategic risks of allowing China to acquire powerful chips like the Nvidia H20, and the potential harm to the international coalition that has worked to restrict China’s access to this technology. They also debate the statutory and constitutional legality of the deal, which appears to function as an export tax, a practice explicitly prohibited by the Constitution.</p><p>Mentioned in this episode:</p><ul><li><a href=\"https://www.ft.com/content/cd1a0729-a8ab-41e1-a4d2-8907f4c01cac\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Financial Times article breaking the news about the Nvidia deal</a></li><li><a href=\"https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Americas-AI-Action-Plan.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Trump Administration’s AI Action Plan</a></li></ul><p>Find <em>Scaling Laws</em> on the <a href=\"https://www.lawfaremedia.org/podcasts-multimedia/podcast/scaling-laws\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Lawfare</em> website</a>, and <a href=\"https://shows.acast.com/arbiters-of-truth\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">subscribe</a> to never miss an episode.</p><p>To receive ad-free podcasts, become a&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>Material Supporter at&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.patreon.com/lawfare\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.patreon.com/lawfare</a>. You can also support&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>by making a one-time donation at&nbsp;<a href=\"https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}