{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/67b74ef86f2e96290c8637b9?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Lawfare Daily: DOGE’s Attack on the Treasury Department","description":"<p>Before January, most Americans had probably never heard of the&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/us/politics/trump-musk-bureau-fiscal-service.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bureau of the Fiscal Service</a>&nbsp;(BFS), a Treasury Department agency that distributes payments from the federal government. But over the last month, this corner of government has appeared again and again in the headlines, as aides working with Elon Musk’s quasi-governmental DOGE initiative successfully gained access to BFS’s payment systems. After a&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/doge-ing-questions-in-federal-court\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">flurry of litigation</a>, a&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.wired.com/story/doge-treasury-department-data-access-denied/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">temporary restraining order</a>&nbsp;now bars these aides from accessing data—but the crisis is not over. It’s still not clear precisely what happened within BFS or what access political actors within the administration might gain in the future, and DOGE continues to access similarly sensitive systems in other agencies, such as the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service.</p><p>To understand what’s happening, Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic spoke with Wendy Edelberg, Director of the Hamilton Project and Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Jacob Leibenluft, who served in the Treasury Department and the Office of Management and Budget under the Biden administration. Why is it so alarming to have political appointees accessing BFS systems? What does this tell us about the administration’s political goals? And what manner of crises could result from this kind of meddling?&nbsp;</p><p>We value your feedback! Help us improve by sharing your thoughts at&nbsp;<a href=\"http://lawfaremedia.org/survey\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">lawfaremedia.org/survey</a>. Your input ensures that we deliver what matters most to you. Thank you for your support—and, as always, for listening!</p><p>To receive ad-free podcasts, become a&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>Material Supporter at&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.patreon.com/lawfare\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.patreon.com/lawfare</a>. You can also support&nbsp;<em>Lawfare&nbsp;</em>by making a one-time donation at&nbsp;<a href=\"https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute</a>.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}