{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/66eb84fc7333591fcf14fc49?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Chatter: UFO Culture, with Sarah Scoles","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/1726711055937-d51c921f-bf75-421b-8783-84e4cd5abf59.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Science journalist Sarah Scoles has written extensively about astronomy and the UFO community, including in her 2021 book&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/They-Are-Already-Here/Sarah-Scoles/9781643137650\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">They Are Already Here</a>. She joined&nbsp;David&nbsp;Priess to discuss how scientists look at ETs, pop cultural takes on first contact with extraterrestrials,&nbsp;the incredible influence of Carl Sagan's&nbsp;<em>Contact</em>,&nbsp;the Allan Hills meteorite, the evolution over time of beliefs about aliens contacting humans, how the Roswell myth&nbsp;emerged, the International UFO Congress, the Mutual UFO Network, UFO investigators, seeing lights around Area 51, SETI salvationalism, extraterrestrial-visitation belief as a religious&nbsp;movement, and more.</p><p><br></p><p><strong><em>Works mentioned in this episode:</em></strong></p><p><br></p><p>The book&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Contact/Carl-Sagan/9781501197987\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Contact</a>&nbsp;by Carl Sagan</p><p><br></p><p>The movie&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118884/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Contact</a></p><p><br></p><p>The book&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Making-Contact/Sarah-Scoles/9781681778020\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Making Contact</a>&nbsp;by Sarah Scoles</p><p><br></p><p>The book&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/They-Are-Already-Here/Sarah-Scoles/9781643137650\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">They Are Already Here</a>&nbsp;by Sarah Scoles</p><p><br></p><p>The book&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/sarah-scoles/countdown/9781645030058/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Countdown</a>&nbsp;by Sarah Scoles</p><p><br></p><p>The event \"<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcVi_3NTF0\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">UAP: The Search for Clarity</a>,\" at the Michael V. Hayden Center for Intelligence, Policy, and International Security, November 15, 2023</p><p><br></p><p>Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Jay Venables of Goat Rodeo.&nbsp;Podcast theme by&nbsp;David&nbsp;Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}