{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/6481e76f8a971b0011396797?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Chatter: Genealogy and Intelligence Analysis with Lisa Maddox","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/show-cover.png?height=200","description":"<p>Shane and David have hosted many former intelligence officers, mostly of the American variety, during more than 80 episodes so far on <em>Chatter</em>. But, until this week, you haven't heard us speak with one who has turned her intelligence experience into a career as a professional genealogist. Lisa Maddox of <a href=\"https://www.familyhistoryintelligence.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Family History Investigations</a> has carved out that unique path, and her story reveals much about the nature and wider applicability of analytic skills.</p><p><br></p><p>David Priess talked to Lisa about her entry into the national security world; the role of intelligence within the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS); differences and similarities among NCIS, DIA, and CIA; her work at CIA as an analyst and manager of analysts; the research, analytic, and presentational aspects of intelligence analysis; structured analytic techniques; the coordination process within the Intelligence Community; the discipline of targeting analysis; her decision to start a genealogy business; how the elements of analysis apply to genealogical work; and more.</p><p><br></p><p><strong><em>Among the works mentioned in this episode:</em></strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>The TV show <a href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364845/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">NCIS</a></li><li>The TV show <a href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2326517/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Finding Your Roots</a></li><li>The book <a href=\"https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/300894/vanished-kingdoms-by-norman-davies/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Vanished Kingdoms</a> by Norman Davies</li><li>The book <a href=\"https://www.harpercollins.com/products/demon-copperhead-barbara-kingsolver?variant=40073146204194\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Demon Copperhead</a> by Barbara Kingsolver</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}