{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/629a87c8e887d5001273e44b?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Chatter: The Secrets of Gay Washington with Jamie Kirchick","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/show-cover.png?height=200","description":"<p>This week on <em>Chatter</em>, Shane Harris talks with journalist Jamie Kirchick about his new book&nbsp;<em>Secret City: The Hidden History of Gay Washington</em>. Kirchick’s story unfolds over several decades and reveals the secret history of gays and lesbians in the capital, as well as the history of secrecy in which they played pivotal roles.&nbsp;</p><p>The book is a set of personal stories as well as an exploration of the national security bureaucracy at the heart of power and influence in Washington. And Kirchick explores a provocative idea: Were gays and lesbians, already accustomed to living secret lives, well-suited to work as intelligence officers?&nbsp;</p><p><em>Chatter</em> is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad. <a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chatter/id1593674288\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Learn more and subscribe</a> to <em>Chatter.</em></p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}