{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/60518a63bd84d92f9a7e587d?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Episode #65: A Conversation Between Michael Chertoff and Anthony Romero","description":"<p>Former DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff and ACLU Chief Anthony Romero go mano a mano at a Federalist Society Event over Edward Snowden, metadata collection, standing in national security cases, and other thing--and find some surprising areas of agreement. Moderated by Ellen Nakashima of the Washington Post.</p>","author_name":"The Lawfare Institute"}