{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/604ae8fb17ac2d24703741ad/604ae90446f4f67d027c5208?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Intercom's Des Traynor on the importance of pricing, product-market fit metrics & more","description":"<p>Check out Intercom: <a href= \"https://www.intercom.com\">https://www.intercom.com</a></p> <p>FOLLOW Des: <a href= \"https://twitter.com/destraynor\">https://twitter.com/destraynor</a></p> <p>FOLLOW Jason: <a href= \"https://linktr.ee/calacanis\">https://linktr.ee/calacanis</a></p> <p>Thanks to our partners:</p> <p>LinkedIn Jobs - Post your first job free at <a href= \"https://www.linkedin.com/angel\">https://www.linkedin.com/angel</a></p> <p>Odoo - Get your first app free & $1000 off your first implementation pack at <a href= \"https://odoo.com/twist\">https://odoo.com/twist</a></p> <p>Assure - Get 20% off your first SPV at <a href= \"http://assure.co/angel\">http://assure.co/angel</a></p> <p>Show notes:</p> <p>0:00 Start</p> <p>1:08 Importance of charging for enterprise products from the start</p> <p>6:08 Explaining the phenomenon of startups that become great companies when the idea behind them is not logical or the market is unforeseen</p> <p>10:18 LinkedIn Jobs - Post your first job free at <a href= \"https://www.linkedin.com/angel\">https://www.linkedin.com/angel</a></p> <p>11:49 Investing in Notion - what he initially saw in the product, how UI helps Notion stand out, how angel investing & giving advice help hone his skills as an operator at Intercom</p> <p>17:39 Common fundraising mistakes that founders make</p> <p>21:48 Growth planning at a late-stage startup</p> <p>24:26 Odoo - Get your first app free & $1000 off your first implementation pack at <a href= \"https://odoo.com/twist\">https://odoo.com/twist</a></p> <p>25:57 How Intercom was initially pitched, the singularity of CRM platforms (Salesforce, HubSpot,Intercom, etc.), preparing for IPO & raising capital as a late-stage startup</p> <p>30:52 Operating profitably, thoughts on acquisitions as a route to growth</p> <p>35:02 Assure - Get 20% off your first SPV at <a href= \"http://assure.co/angel\">http://assure.co/angel</a></p> <p>36:32 Hopin's rapid rise in online events, dealing with the pandemic and being cooped up, keeping up company moral</p> <p>44:13 Intercom's international offices, work from home, Slack's market penetration play, Microsoft vs. Salesforce in the 2020's</p> <p>51:09 Acquisition offers, why hasn't Intercom sold yet? Pricing power in the enterprise, important product-market fit metrics</p> <p>1:01:50 Thoughts on going public</p> <p>Subscribe to our YouTube to watch all full episodes: <a href= \"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkkhmBWfS7pILYIk0izkc3A?sub_confirmation=1\"> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkkhmBWfS7pILYIk0izkc3A?sub_confirmation=1</a></p> <p>Subscribe to TWiST Clips for all the best moments: <a href= \"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7tJlcUA6PzVHEMo-X7ddg?sub_confirmation=1\"> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7tJlcUA6PzVHEMo-X7ddg?sub_confirmation=1</a></p>","author_name":"Jason Calacanis"}