{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/60059ad176b566154159c5d5/69381d404a9751f83d80817f?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"Oliver Burkeman’s art of the non-retreat","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/60059ad176b566154159c5d5/1765284919185-4550f00f-0613-4a95-8ec0-8e65ee6a2bd7.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Kicking off the episode with an existential crisis, the inimitable Oliver Burkeman joins Katherine to explore his own, unique take on rest and retreat.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>A familiar name to many in both the US and the UK, Oliver’s book Four Thousand Weeks has put him at the heart of the global conversation around building a meaningful life. As you might expect, Oliver turns the concept of the podcast on its head whilst taking Katherine on a wild ride through topics from whether we should use AI as a creative tool to favourite notebooks to whether TS Eliot was on the path to spiritual enlightenment.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>A wonderful, brain-stretching conversation that reaches way beyond the confines of an imagined cabin in the woods to explore wider ideas around what it really means to get away from it all and if we should even try.</p><p><br></p><p>Oliver’s Links</p><p><a href=\"https://www.oliverburkeman.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Oliver's website</a> to buy his books and sign up to his newsletter</p><p><br></p><p>Things mentioned in the programme</p><p>Kendra Allenby’s <a href=\"https://www.kendraallenby.com/new-yorker-cartoons-1\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">New Yorker beach cartoon</a>&nbsp;</p><p>NYC stationery store <a href=\"https://www.mcnallyjacksonstore.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Goods for the Study</a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a344llNU15Y\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Shinzen Young on T.S. Eliot</a>&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>Visit The Clearing website <a href=\"http://www.theclearingpod.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.theclearingpod.com</a> for a full transcript and to discover how to enjoy the episodes ad free</p><p>Buy Katherine’s books:<a href=\"https://katherine-may.co.uk/enchantment\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Enchantment</a> |<a href=\"https://katherine-may.co.uk/wintering\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Wintering</a> | The Electricity of Every Living Thing:<a href=\"https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1124/9781409172512\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> UK</a> /<a href=\"https://bookshop.org/books/the-electricity-of-every-living-thing-a-woman-s-walk-in-the-wild-to-find-her-way-home/9781612199603\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> US</a></p><p>Follow Katherine on<a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/katherinemay_/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Instagram</a></p><p>Visit Katherine’s<a href=\"https://katherine-may.co.uk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> Website</a></p><p><br></p><p>Production Credits</p><p><br></p><p>Guest Booker and Admin Support - Meghan Hutchins</p><p>Substack Manager - Rebecca Armstrong</p><p>Producer - Alice Lloyd</p><p>Music - The Leaf Library @theleaflibrary</p>","author_name":"Katherine May"}