{"version":"1.0","type":"rich","provider_name":"Acast","provider_url":"https://acast.com","height":250,"width":700,"html":"<iframe src=\"https://embed.acast.com/$/5f89845894287d58c98a397f/6006e6b467f84a50b14383e1?\" frameBorder=\"0\" width=\"700\" height=\"250\"></iframe>","title":"In conversation with Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela","thumbnail_width":200,"thumbnail_height":200,"thumbnail_url":"https://open-images.acast.com/shows/5f89845894287d58c98a397f/1611070865984-89d38a8612c5eb27523e3a1cff170308.jpeg?height=200","description":"<p>Tamar Garb is joined by&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.sun.ac.za/english/faculty/arts/historical-trauma-transformation/people1/researchers/academic-staff-and-associates\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela</a>, South African National Research Chair in Violent Histories and Transgenerational Trauma, for a conversation about her work and recent interventions into a very difficult political and social landscape in South Africa. Pumla uses social psychology and psychoanalysis to discuss the ongoing threat and challenge of racism, the intergenerational inheritance of trauma, and&nbsp;the notion of the aesthetic as a site for reparative humanism.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Transcript: </strong><a href=\"https://www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/transcript-conversation-pumla-gobodo-madikizela\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/transcript-conversation-pumla-gobodo-madikizela</a></p><p><br></p><p><em>This conversation was recorded on&nbsp;6th November 2020</em></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Speakers:</strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.ucl.ac.uk/art-history/people/academic-staff/professor-tamar-garb\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tamar Garb</a>, Durning Lawrence Professor in the History of Art at UCL&nbsp;//&nbsp;<a href=\"http://www.sun.ac.za/english/faculty/arts/historical-trauma-transformation/people1/researchers/academic-staff-and-associates\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela</a>, South African National Research Chair in Violent Histories and Transgenerational Trauma at Stellenbosch University, and the 2020-2021 Walter Jackson Bate Fellow at the Harvard Radcliffe Institute</p><p><strong>Producer and Editor:</strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/people/professional-services\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kaissa Karhu</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href=\"http://www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/podcasts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">www.ucl.ac.uk/racism-racialisation/podcasts</a></p>","author_name":"UCL Sarah Parker Remond Centre"}